Ditto. It's sad that the existence of some seems to rely on pubs been open - and the constant brow beating of those against that. Each to their own I guess.
. I miss going to the football. I miss taking my elder son Swimming it was a great sensory experience for him. My youngest missed weeks of school and suffered greatly as a result. While I still had to go to work as a key worker my wife was stuck at home caring for 2 disabled children. Her mental health was destroyed, anxiety off the chart. Ended up in me taking time off work recently as she basically had a breakdown (not sure if that's the correct term) with a trip to the hospital. The after care has been awful, telephone appointments driving her anxiety higher. She has hardly left the house for months. And is on medication to help her sleep. It's easy to dismiss the struggles of others when your own situation is fine.
That sounds absolutely awful and I feel for you. But none of it has anything to do with a pub been open does it? There are a million and one things that people are currently unable to do - not going to the pub is so far down that list that it barely registers.
I don't know I am hoping that social distancing for months on end has weakened the virus. Today another milestone was reached as it's now under 900 covid patients in UK hospitals. This year has been ruined for everyone. Cancelled holidays, cancelled gigs, can't go to sport, can't get married with a big crowd, can't physically touch people, queuing for places, masks etc. It's been a rubbish time, but fingers crossed we are getting nearer to Wuhan.
I’m not dismissing anyone’s struggles. but I’ll spin this for you; your lot might have been challenging this year, but you’ve got a wife and kids who you have an ongoing loving relationship with. That’s not ‘existing’ it’s living. maybe you don’t realise this till you get old, but the important things in life aren’t the new car or the fancy trainers, they’re the times spent with friends and family, the love and the laughs.
You probably ment well but I have to say I find that reply incredibly condescending. I'll leave it at that for tonight I think. Enjoy your evening.
Same here. My husband is working full time at home and I've been into work a couple of times a week and working at home the rest of the time (talking about before summer hols) and we've had a lovely time. After work we've been spending lots of time playing with the dog(s) and taking them out for free runs, reading loads, learning level 1 British Sign Language, baking and trying out new recipes, having a laugh with friends via WhatsApp, Zoom, Messenger etc., getting to know the neighbours, redoing the garden, decorating a room and just generally having a really nice time together. It makes me realise how much of my life before was just existing whereas now I really feel like I am 'living' and it's great. I know that lots of people have had a completely opposite existence but everyone is different and there'll be people on both sides.
See that Idiot abroad in china episode? Some sort of fetus in a shell, crispy Grasshoppers, fried lizards & toads, no bats though. All good stuff if you fancy a quick snack on the go.
Interesting, but do you ever consider the animal body parts that we eat in UK and what the difference is? Just because we are socialised to our own foodstuffs does that make it the only thing we should eat? Have you seen the horrendous videos circulating on social media recently showing the western abattoirs and similar that produce our 'sanitised' fast food? And as for @Young Nudger's comment re: China Flu - sadly, not based in fact (yet), and there are still studies underway to understand why Covid samples were seemingly detected in Spain, Italy and Brazil (plus numerous examples of Covid-like symptoms and deaths before it had been labelled) months before China took the steps to announce that there was a potential epidemic. As always, those who raise it get the immediate blame. It may well have originated in China, but until we have the full facts and can explain the other findings from around the globe properly, it isn't helpful to label this on a country, nor to assume that eating wildlife caused it. We should focus on what to do collectively now, and take this as a lesson learned for the next time a more deadly pandemic strikes.
moreover I’d like to add that for someone interested in animal welfare; whilst less sustainable, eating wildlife is better for the animal than intensive farming.
Its interesting how the people who suggest they are living are the ones who have spent hardly anytime going out...
Please tell me more about how I’m not living, while I spend all day with the love of my life. It’s not ideal. Nobody said it was. But to suggest you’re not living is ridiculous and downright offensive to everyone that’s come before you. What’s so important that you need to do to ‘live’ that you can’t do currently?
Surely "existing " suggests not getting any enjoyment from life. Different strokes for different folks as to how they derive that enjoyment.
Who said we haven't been going out? If we go out for the day we'll take a picnic to a quiet beach instead of having fish and chips in Scarborough. Its cheaper for us and the food is healthier and we enjoy the days just as much. Same if we go to the Peak District or somewhere else. The only activity we normally do that we aren't now is shopping, and I never enjoyed that anyway...
No chance would this have worked. The so called "Zero COVID" strategy is just not feasible. In any lockdown you can't rely on 100% compliance so there will continue to be some community transmission. If not from the "locked down" population, then amongst they key workers. This prevents complete eradication. Even if you do get 100% compliance and immunity for all key workers, other countries are not going to take the same approach. To stop reimportation you would need to close the borders until there's a vaccine which would cause devastating social and economic damage. Even if you test everyone at the border people will slip through the net as in the early stages of contracting the virus you will not necessarily test positive. Even if you catch positive cases, you can't rely on 100% compliance on self isolation (unless you imprison them). As seemingly >50% of people are symptomatic the virus can easily spread unknowingly. It's not possible to test the entire population bi-weekly to pick up every positive case. Instead, you end up with some community transmission and have to try and minimise it. No chance would it "all be over now". We'd be in a pretty similar position to where we are now.
The pubs are open. You’ve probably not noticed as it sounds like you’re not the type that enjoys socialising that way - that’s fair enough. Me, I like going swimming with my family. I like taking my son to the match in front of a massive live crowd. I like foreign travel and I like my children to experience other cultures, food and ideas, as it broadens their viewpoints and horizons. I like my kids not to suffer from the mental health issues we’re bestowing in millions by constantly obsessing about a virus which has a very low likelihood of being any of our ultimate causes of death. I also like a pint in a pub with my mates, to be fair. I like people not dying of cancer or heart attacks because we’ve closed down essential services. I like people not being sexually abused or beaten up by abusive partners. I like people not committing suicide. Call me old fashioned, but I like my children to be educated in a school by qualified teachers free from ridiculous face nappies and fear mongering. But you carry on generalising that anti-lockdowners are just about going to the pub, that way you can carry on kidding yourself that the lockdown hasn’t cost thousands of lives and livelihoods.