Worst James Bond film ......

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  1. Archey

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    My apologies mate, I missed your reply earlier. I still like the James Bond films now because of the more, tongue in cheek, slapstick element to them. I didn't get the Daniel Craig ones to start with, because they were a departure from the traditional bond film, though I think they got the balance just about right from Skyfall onwards, albeit a bit darker than usual.

    I agree with your sentiments regarding the Fast and Furious franchise. The first one is by far my favourite, and even though I've watched the majority of them, the first is a completely different movie to the rest of them. I like 2 to 6, but I get that they're not what the first one set out to be. I mean, if you're using different directors, I guess they're not meant to be the same.

    It's a bit like the Sugababes. How can you be a fan of the Sugababes new music when the line up is completely different to the original (though I think they've gone back to the original line up). But I definitely get what you're saying.

    Final destination was never my jam, so I've not seen those.
     
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    I believe Dalton was offered it a couple of times in the 70s but he turned it down as he thought he was too young.
     
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    Yeah Rich I believe he did.
    And I think Brosnan turned it down in '86, the year before Dalton eventually got it.
    Because he was doing the US tv drama Remington steele.
     
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    An absolutely wonderful read, that footnote made my day. Here's hoping he has a long, happy, and healthy retirement.
     
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    I’ve not read any of the books, so I’ve no want to measure book v film.

    I can only judge it on what I mentioned. It’s the only Bond film I would intentionally skip.

    Each to their own, though I really can’t get my head around why it would be considered favourably.
     
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    That's about right. Dalton was approached with a view to taking over from Connery after Diamonds Are Forever, but turned it down as he (correctly) felt mid-20s was too young to play the character, plus I expect the thought of following Connery would have been daunting, especially as he'd have seen the 'mixed' reaction to Lazenby's turn. I think he ended up only doing the two films as the Broccoli Bunch took too long to get things sorted out to do Goldeneye, by which time Dalton had essentially decided he was done with it, while Brosnan had finally become available, so ultimately got the gig.

    As for Brosnan, I don't think he had any real say in the matter, as the american tv lot wouldn't release him from his contract.
     
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    An incredible story!

    Slightly off topic, but the Esprit was put in a container after filming and essentially forgotten about until 1989. After the rent payments for the container weren't kept up, it was sold at an unseen auction for $100. Not knowing what it was, the buyer kept it in their garden, submarine fins and all, for years for their kids and then grand kids to play on. Someone at some point pointed out what it was, and eventually it was put back up for sale, where it was bought by Elon Musk for just over £600k in 2013.
     
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    Completely agree, OHMSS is my favourite and I would argue the best Bond film of them all. I also think Lazenby was much much better than folk often suggest, not least given the act he was following and his lack of experience. It's an unexpectedly emotional film at times; the ending is still genuinely moving. When the truly dire No Time To Die pinched the music and all the time in the world schtick, it just felt like a desperate attempt by a terrible film to hide behind the goodwill that OHMSS carries with it.

    That entire David Arnold Bond project album was very good.
     
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    Here's Dalton telling it like it is, and he was right in how things went downhill with Moore.
    I think he made Bond more cold hearted and serious again, which they then re-booted and got Daniel Craig to also do the same.


     

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