With almost as year to make plans how has our government so massively ****** up the vaccine rollout?

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  1. sadbrewer

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    Worldwide shortage forecast last May.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...ld-delay-global-rollout-2020-5?op=1&r=US&IR=T
     
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    I think you’re all forgetting that anyone getting the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine have to also be observed for allergic reaction for at least 15 minutes after their jab, and it also has to be stored and moved at ultra low temperatures.

    When they start rolling out the Oxford Astra Zeneca more widely (it’s only been administered at all for a couple of days I think), things might be easier to quicken. No need to wait the fifteen minutes with this one and stored at a refrigerated temperature but not anywhere near as low.
     
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    Yes, I forgot about that. Just seen this on Twitter.

     
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    I was worried it was going to be like this when my parents went for theirs in Wath, but there was only a dozen or so queuing and they got in within 10 minutes.
     
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    It was reported in various media outlets here that on batch of 10,000 had to be thrown away because they had been despatched in picnic cool boxes!! cant remember whether it was German or France. The latter have made a complete hash of it so far. The EMA have dragged their heesl on certifying vaccines also and the whole strategy of centrally ordering them spreading the orders across multiple vaccines at a time when they did not know which ones would be ready or even work and then using the EU's slow turning wheels of administration to then allocate them to member states has so far been a disaster
    I read a report yesterday that Italy are close(ish) to completing testing their own vaccine which can be manufactured and distributed domestically in order to bypass the EU bottleneck and, more importantly, it is a single dose vaccine.
     
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    The areas she deals with emergency and wards she doesn’t get involved in scheduled operations so can’t comment on those. What I do know for those who think the NHS is done sort of dead zone is the Christmas for example she worked 12 hour nights on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day with a final one one on the Sunday like a lot of her colleagues.
     
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    Many scientists?? Can you quote names or a source for that? Also the more people who are immunised even if temporarily then lowers the spread.i.e. potential viable hosts for the virus......the lower the spread means less likelihood of mutations occurring sporadically. So forgive my scepticism regarding your source.
     
  8. SuperTyke

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    Oh I wasn't saying I thought they were dead zones, just that certain parts of the hospital's shut down at weekends due to a lack of underfunding (I assume). I know Barnsley hospital does or at least did a couple of years ago
     
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    So after a few weeks of the roll out and the number receiving the first dose is nearly 18 million... are you feeling a little more upbeat?

    Or even that your initial pontificating was a bit premature?
     
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    The vaccine roll out is the only thing this government has got remotely correct to be fair.
     
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    I think overall the vaccine rollout has been good considering the logistics, staff issues and production /supply of vaccine. It does not excuse the utter shi.tshow of governance on many other aspects of the pandemic from Johnson and his cronylovers. I dislike the Tories with a passion but on its own, as I say, taking the rollout in isolation, they've done a good job.
     
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    I agree completely.
     
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  13. KamikazeCo-Pilot

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    Just stick with me and follow my lead mate....Im usually correct about things :)
     
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  14. SuperTyke

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    No. A lack of proper planning still led to an unnecessary delay in the rollout of the vaccine while they scrambled around trying to get qualified doctors and dentists to fill in forms to say they were allowed to be around children. The rollout was getting to a much more better pace (but seems to have slowed again?) But the needless delay by improper planning was negligent.

    That said it is brilliant that all the elderly and highly vulnerable people have now been vaccinated, it's the most important job and it's largely done so now they can concentrate on letting people live their lives, I just hope they don't insist on the entire population needing vaccinations before life can continue. So yes I'm feeling upbeat about the actual rollout but more and more depressed that the vaccine programme which we were told was the key to unlocking is now being largely ignored in favour of asymptomatic case numbers being key with even the BBC publishing a story of the latest sage advice, recommendations and estimations completely ignoring the impact of the vulnerable having been vaccinated
     
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    I've been reading a couple of articles from Germany, they're getting worried that the bad press given to the Astra zeneca vaccine is putting people off from taking it. A story ran recently that 88 members of a particular hospital's staff were vaccinated and the following day 37 phoned in sick, they now have several hundred thousand unused phials, and the stock keeps building up as people cancel in order to wait for the Pfizer product.
    Some medical big guns are being rolled out now to back it, the other option being considered is that when called you get what is given.
     
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    Had mine on Saturday at Hanwell. Went in 5 mins before the appointed time, no queues outside, 3 people waiting inside before me including a couple of youngsters (think they had spares), so had the jab at 11.15 as booked previously. No real after effects apart from an aching arm and a bit of tiredness the following day. Mine was the AZ jab so no need to wait afterwards either
     
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    Letting the schools back in March is absolute madness. We'll be in Lockdown the rest of this year. That's with the vaccine. Let's allow the asymptomatic spreaders to mingle and let care homes have one visitor per person that might have contact with children.
     
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    Yep, credit where its due, the vaccine roll out has been fantastic, is it a coincidence that it was run by the nhs and volunteers and not by private companies?, people before profit wins the day as oppose to vice versa...
     
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    Such a pity you are not running the country. You seem to know everything about everything, find fault with everything that the people who have to actually deal with the crisis are doing and you apparently have all the answers! Meanwhile back in the real world........................
     
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  20. SuperTyke

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    In your opinion tekkytyke would it have been prudent to arrange the agreements/permission for all the GP's, dentists, nurses etc to administer vaccines prior to December and January of this year? Simple question.
     

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