When will people realise..

I have no conscience about that. If the Wigans of this world are happy to have multimillionaires shovelling money into there clubs then they must be prepared to suffer the consequences when it all turns sour on them. I’ve pointed out on here before that if Wigan hadn’t lured Kieffer away shortly before last summer’s transfer window closed we wouldn’t have required the points deduction to maintain our championship status

 

This ^^^^^. Too true. The only travesty was. It didn’t happen to Bolton the last time we got relegated. Their fans were taunting ours. Not laughing now. Screw em.

 

It’s as though some folk have absolutely no issue with breaking ffp rules. Not just breaking em mindst. Smashing em into space. £39 m over 3 years and still busting that figure. Wtf.
Wigan when they went into admin. I’m pretty sure they thought 12 point deduction would be easily overcome. They were flying at the time. Backfired big style.

 

We are not in by default. As stated previously. I believe Wigan had enough points in the bag and were flying when they decided to enter admin. It was their arrogance that brought their downfall. A plan that backfired. What would you do about ffp. I would Relegate automatically. not points deduct. Only issue is, Wednesday should have been relegated n’all. I think our board would have fought that one vehemently if it had been necessary. Just waiting for the EFL appeal to deduct Derby points n’all.
By your assessment if Wednesday finish 10 points behind us and are relegated. Will you call it by default. Cos I certainly won’t.

 

We aren't in by default but we are extremely lucky to be in. In any other season we were down but because of covid and the league being paused it caused a delay that Wigan just couldn't afford.
It's absolutely the right thing that we are in and not them, they overspent and broke the rules so had 10 points deducted. But it doesn't make us any less fortunate that it happened. I really dont understand this 'omg Struber is amazing he kept us up' thing from some, he kept us up because of the 10 point deduction otherwise we were down.

 

When will people realise that’s not what ‘by default’ means?

it means the norm, the standard position, natural state.

10 is twice 5 by default.

Barnsley existing in the Championship is the default statistically.

Barnsley not getting relegated by ‘luck’ would make it erroneous, a mistake, incorrect.

 

I was thinking about reading too, someone on here pointed out they are now in their 3rd year ffp financial year loss and need to make £12million profit this season to be clear of the rules.
There is no way thats going to happen, even if they sold all their players, so the only way they can survive is to get promoted.
Again i will have no sympathy for them. They and others are paying for players they just cant afford to the detriment of the other teams....unfair and need to take it on the chin.

 

So Reading could face a points deduction this season?

 

Not luck or fortunate. Either. Those are the rules. What’s your view on my statement re Wednesday. It doesn’t matter when it happens. The only difference is Wednesday thought they had a case. Wigan didn’t have a case for defence as was proved through the outcome. Automatic 12 point deduction. As I say it backfired on em .
By anyone’s theory. If it was luck or fortunate.
Was it bad luck and unfortunate on Wigan’s part. Absolutely not. They knew the consequences.

 

What's the Wednesday statement? I haven't seen it. Wigan trying to appeal was the most pointless thing I've seen in a long time. I still think we were fortunate that the seasons extension meant Wigan entered admin under last season and not this though.

 

My response to Harry Hough mate.
Automatic 12 point deduction. Irrespective.
Wednesday got away lightly. Their punishment could have been much worse.

 

Agreed. I've always said it should be a two division relegation though. Relegating one division isn't a punishment it's simply redressing the balance created by the cheating, the second division is the punishment.

Or to put it into more real world terms. If I steal £10000 of you I have to give you the money back (relegation to league 1) and have to spend time in prison (league 2)

 

If they’d been relegated. We would still have been safe. Only 2 would have gone down automatically. Just different circumstances.
Anyways I lay a lot of this at the door of the EFL and clubs. The season should have been null and void. Caused a hell of a lot of issues. Were clubs promoted on merit. No. the season wasn’t finished in leagues 1and 2. Absolute joke. Wycombe 7th.

 

One of the clubs that should have been punished differently in my view. Was QPR. 10yrs to pay back a fine of £42m. When they reaped all the profits of promotion to the premier and parachute payments. (We give it you. You give it us back.) The biggest fight put up by. Derby county. You couldn’t make it up.

 

It's the Wednesday way. Break the rules, others get punished.

 

With games in hand , having occupied the play off positions ir above for must of the season.

 

Can someone put me right on this. If Wigan hadn't tried to work a flanker by going into admin (for what shady financial purpose, I know not) and not taken the 12 point hit, would we still be having this conversation as the EFL wouldn't have got involved and the question of breaching FFP wouldn't have arisen. It just seems to me that by trying to be clever/devious they right royally shot themselves in the foot.

 

No Wigan's owners shot the club (dead) by the looks of it.EFL had no issues with them before they voluntarily went into administration.

 

The financial purpose was the difference between championship and league1. £6m according to the figures at the time. If they’d stayed up . No points deduction for this season and £6m better off.

 

If I’d have been a 6th placed fan I would have been miffed to say the least. They in my eyes should have been allowed to play Wycombe for that 6th place.
No one could predict where they would have finished. Almost everyone one here predicted Barnsley and Luton were down.
Edit1my memory doesn’t serve me well. The table I’ve looked at resembles nowt I’ve put.
Edit 2 it was Peterborough they replaced so alls well ends well.