when Scotland leaves the Union...

Really





well that went well

 

If you are lowering the border, can you stop just short of Sheffield. Pretty please

 

My point exactly. If the English hadn't invaded Scotland at Bannockburn, making a complete nuisance of yourselves there would have no reason for us peace lovers to kick your sorry arses.

 

Just examples of why you are wrong...
Treasury figures..."The Scottish Government raised £941 million less than expected in devolved income taxes in 2017/18, new figures from HMRC reveal today.
Scotland’s economy grew more slowly than the rest of the UK, hitting tax receipts and leaving the Scottish Government with a shortfall in funding.
Because of the risk sharing mechanism in the jointly agreed fiscal framework, the shortfall will be offset by a £737 million increase to the block grant funded by the UK Government. It means the Scottish Government will have to manage a reduction in funding in 2020/21 of £204million.
Scottish ministers are responsible for deciding how to respond"
Many of the SNPs figures were based on Oil prices when they were far higher than they are now. North sea Oil does not really offer relief
as most of the extraction and fields are owned by international companies . Tourism, whisky and fishing and some high tech industries doesn't really cover the required GDP they need to go independent.
As for your claim "there's always the Euro!!! " They do not meet the criteria in any way shape or form to join the EU (in spite of the Commission playing fast and loose with the rules) Given the hole blasted in the already fragile EU budget by Brexit, lLeaders of member states are unlikely to be happy about another prospective member that would be net receivers rather than contributors to the budget.
Aside from currency issues there would be costs like setting up borders customs controls, Embassies and consulates, negotiating trade deals. Remember they would be leaving the UK trade behind soon after we have collectively left the EU. . Even if EU did 'fast track' membership they would be talking months or rather years to get everything in place. in the meantime they would be trading under WTO rules.
They would also be likely to be expected to pay their share of the UK National debt i.e. the 'divorce bill' in the same way as the UK is doing with the EU.
I take no pleasure in stating any of this (my great grandfather on my dad's side was a proud Scot and I have a Scottish surname) and wish Scotland well, but, anyone who thinks that Scotland has the financial clout (given its GDP is less than Yorkshire) to go independent has got absolutely no grasp of the economic reality.

 

Might well be a different story with the implications of independence meaning:

1. Scotland having to adopt the Euro as their currency.

2. Border posts and customs checks at Gretna, Berwick on Tweed and various other cross border routes. Passport checks on trains travelling bewteen England & Scotland.

Not too attractive a proposition for Scots when the reality dawns.

 

I honestly don't know mate but fortunately I'm not the one to make those decisions. But I trust those in Scottish govt have the answer.
Surely the border will be as Ireland has. Currency will take care of its self. I hear the pound would be the preferred option but the euro or an independent currency would be options. Nicola has not been wasting time recently. She has asked the EU about their views of Scotland joining and from reports she has been warmly received.
But let's not run before we can walk. Boris will not give in easily. So it might be as reported Tha Scotland may have to go to the European courts to force an election.
But I really am hoping that one day it will happen.

 

Joining the euro might be the better option.
And border controls work both ways. But why since the Irish have been in the EU has cross border travel and trade been quite fictionless? Would it not be fair to say that it is possibly England which is causing the trouble and problems?

 

Some of these posts are missing the fundamental point. It’s for the Scots to decide.