What planet is Captain Hindsight on?

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  1. MDG

    MDG Well-Known Member

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    All labs matter.
     
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    MDG Well-Known Member

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    Abbott defo, out of her depth.

    As for Corbyn. some of what he proposed was good around public transport, utilities etc. I actually liked quite a lot of his proposals. I just never bought into how everything would have been paid for and always thought he was promising far more than could be delivered. Didn't agree with him on things like trident, thought that made him look quite weak. I still voted for him to be fair, a bit like now, best of a bad bunch.

    I've given Starmer some real stick on here. He made these 10 pledges (below). I do not disagree with any of them and my whole point of this thread is that when I listen to him he seems to flip flop purely based on what the government do rather than sticking to his guns and shouting his policies from the turrets.

    https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

    He is failing IMO on his tenth pledge as being an effective opposition. Plus voters like me need to hear him express his alternate vision to the Tories, promoting these pledges and the hows behind them, rather than just being wishy washy in opposition criticising the government yet not offering up these alternatives.
     
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    I'm not Starmer's biggest fan but it seems that he suggests something, is ridiculed, Johnson and Co then implement his suggestions a few weeks later (often too late, as with this new lockdown) and Starmer is then called "Captain Hindsight" - despite having called for those measures previously.

    I'm pretty sure "hindsight" means looking back and saying what should have happened, without having advocated for that at the time...Starmer seems to be being pilloried for something he advocated at the time.


    Edit: I totally agree that he's not providing effective enough opposition though. He and his shadow cabinet should be absolutely blasting the current Government on every single failing they've yet to be held accountable for.
     
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    I am. Gutted I can only imagine it
     
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    MDG Well-Known Member

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    Well he called for a lockdown this time, the day before it was implemented so hardly forward thinking, it would have happened anyway I reckon.

    But we have massive numbers of people advocating lockdowns and others saying they don't work. Regardless who is in power it's a bit of a no win decision.

    It's clear these so called circuit breakers that he wanted in the past only have limited impact for a very short period.

    I don't think there is an easy decision to be made. we just have to hope that the vaccine rollout goes to plan and they prove to be effective.
     
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    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Ridiculous to send kids back for one day. 2 weeks after Christmas should have been the earliest that they went back.
     
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    The schools ‘planning’ has been absolute incompetence.

    greenwich schools close. Education secretary threatens legal action, they open for a day then close for Christmas.

    schools asked to test pupils on reopening.

    PM and education secretary say schools are safe and should stay open. London schools told to close. PM says schools are safe. Schools open for one day. By end of the day schools told to close.

    shambles doesn’t even begin to describe it. And that’s just schools.
     
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    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    what has that got to do with you ignoring the exact thing you claimed wasn’t happening!

    never mind eh.
     
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    Completely agree, luckily daughter had an inset day Monday but in year 11 so has had online lessons today and for the next X no of weeks maybe. GCSE exams cancelled so have discussed that with her. We stressed the importance of taking her mocks very seriously before xmas thinking this situation might arise. Mocks may form part of the judgement on grades I guess. A bit of a mixed bag really, some people hate exams, others will feel like they have built up all those years at school for a bit of a nothingness at the end of it Breaks my heart to see people suffering.

    I wouldn't have relaxed things for Xmas personally. We did make the sacrifice and didn't spend xmas with other family households, we will hopefully have plenty of time for celebrations when we can get past this virus. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

    :(
     
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    They don’t wear red tinted glasses at all. They wear vanilla centrist glasses, anyone with genuine socialist policies is shot down on this forum except for a select few decent folk.
     
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    Again, you don't think he changes his mind randomly when he speaks. I happen to do so. End of story.
     
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    Just a Tory troll. Pity you haven't anything better to do with your time.
     
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    just out of curiosity, what do you think DePfeffel does every time he speaks?
     
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    @MDG At least she now knows. And if she's been working steadily, producing work that shows she's at x grade and capable of getting y grade by May/June she should be ok. The ones that lose out will be the lazy, can't be bothered ones like my son who probably would do better in school with people chivying him and a decent memory that could probably pull it out the hat on exam day. Glad he's not Y11 yet!
     
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    There’s that open mind again.
     
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    Lol!
     
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    The country is ****** because of Labour incompetence.

    After nearly eleven years of Tory government, a brexit all of their creation and a pandemic mismanaged so appallingly we’ve had thousands more deaths than was ever necessary - and will suffer thousands more.

    But Corbyn. But Starmer.

    Do me a favour.
     
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    All Starmer needed to do was polish up Corbyn’s policies while having a nice haircut and a decent suit and the sad truth is he can’t even do that properly. Labour need shut.
     
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    I’m waiting for Starmer to suggest an 8pm clap for Boris every Wednesday.
     

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