Option C - Lock down properly for 4 weeks. No non-essential work (food, healthcare and utilities only), all incoming (15000/day) people into country go into mandatory 14-day quarantine. Tighten up the rules and large fines for people who are flaunting the rules. Minimum 4m separation between non-family members outside the house. Travel for essential work, medicines, food shopping *only* (no nipping for the paper). Build up capacity in regional centres (Nightingale hospitals) for treatment of COVID, so anyone with a suspected case goes there instead of into normal hospitals which are used for "normal" cases. Pay everyone EBI (Emergency Basic Income) to stay at home. *Then* start to relax measures when number of cases is at a sufficient level where we can test all suspected cases, track all exposures and mandatory quarantines for everyone infected.
Schools is a confusing one. On the one hand I can't see how they can open while social distancing is still is place especially for a lot of children who have EHCP's in place and will need extra support. On the other I wonder how they are coping with implementing social distancing now with the children who are in school especially those with EHCP's in place. My guess is they aren't implementing social distancing fully at the moment.
This is all conjecture and people are ignoring the most basic yet important question! Will this season be null and void
In our school, they are putting them in the IT suites, on pc's away from each other. They allow them to have a footy kick around on the pitch, but non contact. Only a few turning up.
Tricky one. My wife works in school and they're managing to keep the limited numbers of pupils & staff away from one another pretty much. Not sure how you do that with a full quota.
Hub I work in there are 25 children with very little or no social distancing. Jose children come from a number of schools in the area. Staff are allocated from nearby schools to staff the hub. Honestly can't see how schools will stay closed until Sepyember
slightly O/T - sorting out grades for 'A' levels and GCSE's this summer isn't going to be easy. A bigger problem looms next summer when it's very likely the 'A' level students and GCSE student will have missed a whole term's (this term) work.
Good to hear, I know this was a big worry at my son's school but he goes to greenacre so obviously its different challenges and circumstances. My wife also works in a school but she has chosen to stay home so our kids don't have to go. I suppose again it will vary depending on the numbers going in. If school are managing to stick to social distancing at all times that's very impressive. My work place are trying to do as much as possible but in some places it's just impossible to do.
It'll probably boil down to limiting the circles of people that you associate with as society starts to re-open.
The fact that anyone might see lockdown ending as an all or nothing question like this makes me despair. The lockdown is needed to suppress the virus. Could take another 6 weeks. In which time hopefully the Government have got their act together when it comes to testing capacity, and people's access to it, so the virus can be contained after the lockdown.
How does the testing plan work. Someone becomes unwell - is tested - found to have Covid 19 - then what? Is the plan to then test all the people that person may have been in contact with? What happens if you find some of them to have the virus - are they isolated - and are all their contacts tested? What if it's someone who works in a school - supermarket - 100's of contacts. If there was a treatment for those who test positive I would see the point of it but if there's no treatment not sure what's the point of testing. On the issue of vaccine - the scientist may develop one but it has to be licensed before being made available and the safety standard required will be extremely high. Is it safe for older people, those with compromised immune systems, children, those with covid19 antibodies etc. And if people don't have confidence in it they're not going to be immunised.
They’re not confident of their success rate plus there’s nothing to say if you’ve already had it you’re good to go. Oh, and tony Blair is a war criminal
People need to look at Hong Kong a city of 7400000 who have had 4 deaths. They seem to have cracked it.
We've testing 19k today. 6 days after guaranteeing we'd be doing 25k a day and 10 before guaranteeing we'll be doing 100k a day. Lying Tory ********. Edit: Not really relevant to this thread, but it'll be reight.
Depends on capacity of testing, you need to test as many people as possible to keep them out of isolation. No coincidence that countries with a test and trace strategy have handled the pandemic better than the UK.
Schools should be the last thing to open, in my opinion. Kids cannot be trusted to social distance, so they'd just be spreading it to every single family before long.
thanks. I can see how if someone tested positive they would be isolated alongside their family. But if for instance a supermarket worker tested positive - how do you trace all the contacts?
