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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    On communications - no. On executing the bolder parts of his manifesto vision - not yet, but I think it is too early to judge. I agree with most of the taxation policies despite all the bleating. I also think he is generally quietly managing the smaller domestic stuff in a far more competent way than the Tories did. On the foreign stage he has acted in a dignified and statesmanlike manner. I think much of our foreign relationships are hideously complicated, and we are forced to co-operate with some distasteful regimes in our wider national interest, despite the over-simplified demands for us to call out everybody we deal with. I think he is going nowhere, although he faces some difficult challenges in getting some of the government's proposed measures through in the coming months. On those, I am sure there will be compromise.

    So for me, the jury is out (!), but I think he will struggle to be re-elected in 2029 because of the likelihood of the Conservatives and Reform combining either before of after the election.

    A simplistic summary of a complex situation.
     
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  3. Dan

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    I don’t disagree on sentiment. But nothing is going to change unless the internal regime pivots away from far right and the US decide they don’t want an ally in the Middle East. It’s just not going to happen.

    The UK has no power in this, like many things.
     
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    Interesting that you're ignoring the anti-Labour leftist/alternative vote that could bring him down in the inner city constituencies. I'm absolutely no fan of many of the gang who ran for parliament down here in Birmingham. But there's obviously movement towards it, it's only going to get worse, and they definitely won't go Reform.

    All it's really going to take is for a few of them to clean up their act and they could easily then attract a lot more people who have been alienated by Labour. They attracted enough even when it was clear they were all arseholes.

    If the Greens were more on it they could maybe grab a fair proportion of that vote round here - suspect they're not quite ruthless enough for that yet.
     
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    There are plenty in and around Labour that would do a FAR better job. Not many that would do a worse job.

    Burnham
    Rayner
    Phillips
    Long-Bailey
    Corbyn
    Butler
    Nandy
    Reynolds

    Just off the top of my head, they would all show how utterly useless starmer is if given the job for a week. He's pathetic he really is. No backbone, no principles, no plan.
     
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    Then simply stay out like many countries do.
     
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  7. Dan

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    If only the world were so simple.
     

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