Starmer

Isn't it better to aim high, even if you only get part of the way there?

 

Or be truthful in the first place?

 

How can you be "truthful" about something which could only ever be an aspirational target? Good to aim high, I'd say. Even if you don't achieve it.

 

Or as we used to say at work, aim low, avoid disappointment

 

Under-promise and over-deliver, eh?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-starmer-refuses-to-rule-out-defending-israel

 

The UK backing a genocidal regime in a war that they started and then escalated is absolutely disgusting. Starmer and every other Labour MP who hasn’t spoken up about this should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

 

I agree, don't know why we get involved.

 

I do.... but if I read you right I agree with you. We should be firmer, be more moral (although that's a problem in power geopolitics sometimes) and tell our so called 'allies' why our position is as it is.

 

Yes - perhaps we should sanction a couple of the more extreme members of the genocidal Israeli government.

 

Don't be daft lol, we're talking about politics here.
It reminds me of when Frank Spencer went on that disastrous PR course lol.
And the bloke said "He's not supposed to help you and be honest, he's a public relations officer!".
Well, surely we could say the same about every single politician.

 

So who would you prefer as Prime Minister, Mr Redrum? (Serious question)

 

In my opinion We get involved because 2 tier who claims to be an atheist , but respects religion has a wife whos, Jewish and their children are brought up in the jewish religion.
Chuck into the mix his connection to Black rock and you might be heading in the right direction to finding out why....
Iran another state that doesn't acknowledge the west's banking order. Join the Dots
The answers are out there if you look hard enough

 

Labour and Starmer are doing some good low-level stuff that they're contriving to bury beneath culture war bullshìt and the Israel/Palestine conflict, where they're trying to get votes from right wing morally-bereft arseholes who wouldn't vote for them if the alternative was shooting themselves in the face. And it's thoroughly pissing off all sides. Utter stupidity.

 

Because it’s impossible not to. It would be ‘nice’ to not be involved and sit back but when 2 regimes like these 2 flex their muscles and more, but let’s be honest it is a powder keg waiting to go off. What do you think would happen if we had a Conservative govt for eg, or even a Reform govt.? I hate war/conflicts so not advocating it anyway, just struggling to see the way out