So var in action in bramall lane cuptie tonight...

A level playing field.

Game A in round 3 Man City v Spurs and VAR is in operation

Game B in same round of the same competition and Crewe v Donny doesn't have VAR.

I just don't get that........ I might be thick like but either all have it or not in the same level or round of the same competition.........

 

I understand the comment you make. And you make a valid point ( Thick is unnecessary ) But the level playing field for me is for the 2 teams involved. Not the competition. The laws of the game are unchanged on the field.
The manager last night moaned about the Mawson decision. I just wonder if it had happened in his favour. Would he have said.” The right decision in the end” ? We all moan about VAR, but by the same token. We all moan if a wrong decision goes against us.

 

no. He will apply the same rules as at bramhall lane. I’m not sure how anyone can get confused by this.

 

VAR just needs to be suspended and thouroughly looked at again and not brought back until they come up with a reasonable and unobtrusive solution that doesn't decide offside from the side that a player dresses...

 

I am not sure how you can not see that one match is refereed differently to the other , surely every match should be under the same control

 

I've only seen the highlights but the referee at bumhole lane didn't stop the game at the time of the incident. He was told in his ear what had been seen on a replay and then gave a penalty and red card. So if the same happens tonight and the ref plays on, the game continues, no penalty, no red card.

 

You are absolutely spot on & the fact that people on this thread cannot agree shows you exactly why a competition should be played to the same rules/ conditions where ever it is played, then at least everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet . The clubs who played in the premier league competition last season & got relegated are now playing under EFL rules & rightly so , imagine the arguments it would throw up if the relegated clubs continued with VAR & the rest of us didn"t , its simple either all or nothing that is the only fair way .

 

I wish it was in use tonight because as sure as eggs are eggs Martin Atkinson will lean towards Chelsea. I'm not saying he will cheat but subconsciously he will have more of an affinity with their premiership superstars than our players who it's likely he has never come across before

 

thats fine. hes still employing the same rules!

 

but the rules haven't changed!

 

But the outcome of the rules will not be the same in each scenario

 

it never has been, the same ref doesn't ref every match, individuals have influenced different football matches causing potentially differing outcomes since time immemorial. ive never seen the clamour for mike dean to ref every match because he applies the rules and makes judgements exactly the same every week.

 

Yes that is true, but with VAR, these outcomes are influenced by another "referee" and decisions changed.

Again back to last night, the referee didn't give the penalty, the var referee did. So if the same incident was to happen tonight and the on field referee makes the same decision, the outcome won't be the same as there is nobody checking for his "mistakes"

 

Would you be happy if Chelsea score a late winner that was offside but not given by the linesman when blunts got through with a penalty winner that wasn't given at the time by the on field referee?

 

your analogy is a bit off point.

of course I’d be unhappy if the ref got something wrong but what happened in a different game wouldn’t matter. How would that affect our game. the laws being applied by our officials are just the same laws.

 

It doesn't affect our game but it affects Bristol City who are now out of the cup due to the use of technology that isn't available at all grounds in the same competition.

 

By simply allowing Var, the rules have changed for those selected games , if you cannot see that I give up & just to make it crystal clear I am meaning that the rules of the competition have changed not the rules of the game .

 

To be absolutely clear. the rules of the competition have not changed! its the same rules as always, agreed by all clubs taking part in the competition in advance of the competition starting, applied by the same officials ......but (in a tiny minority of the games in the competition) by differing methods. no one is being disadvantaged, no one is being advantaged.

 

Instead of 1 bent referee on the pitch and one vvanking himself silly in a broom cupboard we have 1 referee. I see that as a bonus.

 

two points;

One, "A level playing field"? Some teams start in July and the poncy ones don't come in to the competition until January and only have to win 6 games to take the trophy (and they always do). It's not that 'level'.
Two, it's a football match, not the signing of the Versailles treaty. The fact that football has introduced the VAR system which changes how 'top flight' football is now viewed compared to every other single game played anywhere in the Country, show how far up it's own ar*e it has gone.