Should he stay or should he go

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  1. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Ok dodgy. A Winall on his game might have bagged 3 tonight.
     
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    We have a pretty dam good striker in my opinion. You must know who i mean. We play him in midfield
     
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    Before and after the start of the transfer window.
    Woodrow: 9 before, 6 after.
    Chaplin: 8 before, 5 after
    Brown: 1 before, 3 after
    ****: 2 before, 0 after
     
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    big fan then? :D
     
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    I can't stand his style of football. Standing looking bored while his players pass the ball two yards to each other in defence before booting it to the opposition with Cauley Woodrow strolling around the halfway line wondering what the **** is happening.
     
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    Fair doos mate

    Im really not sure to make of him

    it’s almost like he’s nonexistent

    his record is fairly good though, I’m sure you can’t argue with that.
     
  7. SuperTyke

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    That's because he's had a lot of help. Experience signed, players gelling and gaining vital experience etc.

    Simple fact of the matter for me is that he was given a target of keeping us in the championship when he took over and he has failed and should leave otherwise it was pointless setting the target in the first place.
     
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    dodgey defence Well-Known Member

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    Those stats aren't too bad for a team at the bottom of the table.
    Problem to me is post lockdown, wether it's tactics, pressure, lack of confidence or just poor play I'm not sure but we've certainly bottled it when it really matters.
    I don't think playing Brown as the prominent forward makes sense in my opinion.
     
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    Made me laugh this thread. Signed players who weren’t up to the job, recruitment led by the owners then we blame the manager, want him sacked, then we go again.
     
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    He will no doubt get the sack if we go down. He was brought in to do a job and he's failed to do it. We were bottom of the table when he came in, we're still bottom now.
     
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    Yeah its about time these managers sussed us out. They will never get the tools for the job in hand. I’m fed up of hearing professionals in the game say we need experience, we need to keep hold of best players, etc and we know we wont do this. Maybe we sack the manager and save costs. After all we will be 30% down on ST sales whether than is part of the 6M deficit for L1 or not I don’t know. What i do know is these owners don’t fund anything so unless we get a magical multi million sponsorship deal, a surge in ST sales or TV money is doubled for L1 then we will sell before we buy. I think we have the added pressure of the need to reduce costs. Strap in, this will be a bumpy ride.
     
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    Then if we have to sell, we sell for the actual value of the player. If we would have got ten million for Pinnock (which he's worth), we could have invested in a better quality of player.
     
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    But we never do. I cant remember us selling a player at market value.
     
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    And that's the issue.

    We are running the club on a ten Bob budget when all we need to do is slap decent price tags on players and reinvest and transfer funds into the squad.

    Obviously there's a recruitment issue too though. There's a couple of lads that don't look up to it that we've actually paid a wedge for.
     
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    Rumour doing the rounds on tykes talk that he's already walked....
     
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    Do you disagree he picks his mates?

    Do you disagree he plays players out of position?

    Do you disagree his insistence on playing out from the back cost us points and caused Anderson to shat his pants on a game by game basis?

    Do you disagree that he's bombed out Oduor despite him looking like one of our best players pre lockdown?

    Do you disagree that he's been allowed to sign players he wanted?

    Do you disagree that he's made substitutions far too late in a game?

    Are all of the above the boards fault? Don't get me wrong, I hate the board. Hate them. But I don't think the manager has done as well with the (admittedly poor) tools he has.
     
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    Two totally different scenarios. Johnson had the time at Bristol city and they are now a comfortable championship side, pushing for prooting for a lot of this season. Chris Wilder got sheff u from league 1 to Premiership pushing for Europe in his tenure. Ainswoorth and Wycombe. I just think at some point we need to stick.
     
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    Sometimes it works but it doesn't always work. I just find it an odd argument that someone who is failing should be kept for the sake of consistency.

    Now if the reason was that the person arguing for him staying believed they could see improvement, that the manager was demonstrating a better understanding of his squad now than when he came and that he was heading in the right direction I'd agree but not simply because of consistency.

    And on Struber front I think he's gone backwards massively. When he came and was forced to play the obvious lineup he did well, as times gone on he's changed it to include his pals and we've gone massively backwards
     
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    Let’s blame the pilot as he can’t fly the plane. So what if the owners sold the wings it’s all down to the pilot.

    Terrible analogy but we’ll go on changing manager whilst the current owners preside over their experiment.
     
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    How did you feel when morais was sacked? Same owners sold the wings the difference is Struber had a transfer window to buy a new set of wings. He bought the wings Stendel had begged for
     

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