Ryan Kent

It's okay saying he is only 19. I could have some patience if we had just signed him from non league and he was our player but he is Liverpools player. He gives the ball away far too much in dangerous areas and then leaves us wide open to a counter, poor desision making, poor at crossing. Just don't think he is ready for championship bit too early and that clause that he has to play so many games is scary. If we had signed him from non league the same people who are saying he is doing well would be on his case. If you are getting loans from premiership teams you want em to be ready now. Sadly he isnt.

 

100% agreed.

 

We were beaten by a better team on Saturday and Tuesday. Both squads filled with quality players on high wages who they paid substantial money for.

The challenge we have that the basis of our team is made up of under 23's. But yet a number of fans over recent years have had very little patience with younger players. So somewhere we need to get a balance and get behind the players.

Both of our wingers have been ineffective in the last 2 games. But in my opinion of the two Kent created more, worked hard off the ball to help his team and so was the better of the two. He also passed to team mates and kept his head. Unlike the senior pro on the opposite wing who should be leading by example.

To say he will be a non league or L2 player in 3 years is very negative. The lad has played just 12 games and scored 1. At this stage last year Isgrove had done similar and received an equally negative response. But yet after making a total 36 appearances and scoring 1 goal last year, most would have him straight back in the team. So the argument of him as a winger not scoring enough goals simply does not stack up for anyone who is championing an Isgrove return. Watkins is our leading scorer from the wing, but I feel his is more effective up front.

 

Only time will tell how if the lad will make it or how good he will be.

He has pace, movement, dribbling ability, skill to beat a man and we have seen he can strike a ball.

So what is lacking? Just strengh and confidence as far as I can see. Both of which he can work on.

To use Hammill as an example if I may. He is very much a confidence player and if he scores we know he gets his swagger and is likely to get another or could go on a run. Same could be said for Kent if he scores a goal. He terrified Derby and QPR's defences.

 

Yes, a voice of reason.

Who knows how Isgrove would fair at this level. Kent is playing against much higher quality players than Isgrove was last year, ones that don't let you turn & give you the space some L1 players do & to me they have been similar in their first dozen or so games. (i remember Isgrove getting the same criticism).

The point about Hammill, is he is a player experienced at this level & he has done little more than Kent.
It is a shame at the minute we have few other options out wide due to injury, as freshening things up & resting players does often help.

Let's just try & be patient.

 

well said jtt some muppets on here talk a load of shxt .makes you wonder if any of them as ever kicked a ball befor

 

What exactly is this appearances condition then?

How many games has he got to play?

 

Apparently certain people on here would have a different view on MacDonald had he have signed on loan from United or Liverpool, which is absolute nonsense. On the flipside here, had Kent have signed from Torquay he'd be getting rave reviews about how bright he looks and the potential he's showing.


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It's called having a opinion on a player who has played 12 games and done very little for me. Orite calling people muppets from your keyboard.... your the muppet

 

People's opinions would be diffrent if he came from lower league people like yours.

 

No, no they wouldnt. Some people can actually judge a players ability in what they see, others are like sheep who need to know others rate them highly to like them. I fall into the first category.


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Im going to stop replying to your threads after this when Kent had another shocker against Fulham where he frequently gave the ball away and failed to track back you thought he had a good game...... I then said again v newcastle he was v poor, I gave him 12 games and I don't think he is ready. To defend him you decided to criticise hammill instead. Like I said come back to Kent at Xmas. But you love to get on yidom and McDonald's case who have both done more so far this season than Kent.

 

ok am a muppet but you still talk shxt

 

For what it's worth Kent is good enough but needs to get his confidence back and do what he was doing earlier in the season. Hammill likewise but you have to go back to last season really not this. He needs to remember that defenders in the championship will crap their pants just like in league one when he runs at them.

MacDonald has been brilliant considering, didn't deserve to be dropped on Tuesday.
Yiadom has had a couple of bad games but also quite a few pretty amazing ones when you factor in that he has played at left back, right back, centre mid and I think right wing? If we had kept George Williams we would now have two of the most versatile full backs in the league. I can kind of understand releasing Williams if yiadom can do both sides.

The player who has performed worst this season so far is Sam winnall and everyone is on his back but they need to remember that for periods last season he was bloody rubbish too it's the story of his career. poor run then a purple patch. Keep the faith with him and he will hit form, he always does.

In short I haven't seen ANY of our players look out of their depth yet to an extent that I'd write them off. They've all competed in some games and been a bit ropey in others

 

The only factors to be considered are:

1. how much we are paying them?
2. how well do we think they are playing?
3. (to a lesser extent), are they our player, or another club's & if they are our player, how long does their current contract last?
4.(to an even lesser extent), how much do people that post this kind of twaddle like them?

 

Posters on this board seem to spend a significant amount of time attacking their own players. There does not seem to be much point to this exercise at the moment because we cannot change any of those players until January, and even then, we will not be changing our recruitment methods. Hecky has said so today. Surely it makes more sense to talk about how to improve the players that we already have.

We are using 4-4-2, and there is no doubt that it was successful in the lower division, but no away team that I have watched has used that system. Why not? The 4-4-2 system relies heavily on wide players, and if our wide players do not function properly, the system does not work properly. The club did not have a lot of cash to throw around until the very end of the transfer window, far too late to be speculating in the hope of finding a gem, so we are stuck with Hammill and Kent. But what if that money had arrived earlier, and what if we had spent that money on wide players? Would we have been any more effective. Well, we have seen lots of teams, who have spent lots of money on wide players, and I cannot remember our bargain basement full backs being particularly inconvenienced by them. Could it be that it is very hard to be effective from a wide position in this league, and all this talk about who is worse, Hammill or Kent, is a pointless debate about a position that the rest of the division has lowered its reliance upon.

I have seen lots of discussion about how Hammill is not as effective as he was last year, and how Kent is not as good as Isgrove was last year. The one consistent difference between the opposition this year and that last year is pace. It is very much harder to beat the opposition using pure pace, to get into the open, get your head up and make an accurate pass. Yet I see no allowance for the improvement in the opposition. I read that we need to maintain the luxury of a second forward, and no allowance for the fact that opposition players are not marked as tightly because we are indulging ourselves with that luxury. Generally speaking, we are able to score goals and generally speaking, we are not able to keep clean sheets. Surely it is not a huge leap of imagination to conclude that the players we are coming up against are a huge leap in quality as compared to last season, and if you accept that, surely it is does take a huge advancement in deductive powers to conclude that it is folly to play such an open structured game.

Whatever your conclusions, it makes no sense to attack our own players when we have no opportunity to change them.

 

Its like Groundhog Day on here, same owd posts from same owd posters drip feeding **** darn ar throits. One hit wonders with no back catalogue.

 

Sir Alf did away with wingers

 

Big man over a computer screen dishing insults out left right and center. Did you get bullied at school and you are now abusing people over Internet to make up for it?