Preparing for league 1

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  1. She

    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    He probably knows they can't afford to pay him off.
     
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    It's just another way of saying 'it's the hope that kills you.' 'Preparing for league one' is just a state of mind; accept we are down, abandon all hope, start to plan for next season which, as @Tyke_67 says, won't actually physically happen until the Championship season ends. There is always hope until we are mathematically down, but it's difficult to cling to, especially now!
     
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    Where has the football improved a lot ?

    Genuine question because I’ve not seen any evidence
     
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    Thats cos there's zero pressure. Carry on underperforming and still get paid or get laid off and take a huge wedge.
     
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    We’ve brought two loanees in & then lost the make or break game against Cardiff. Is there any point playing the loanees now?

    What benefit to us is there in playing lads that aren’t going to be here next season if we can’t stay up anyway?

    Or do we play what’s perceived to be our strongest 11 in the hope we can pull off a miracle? Whilst our own young players are missing out on the chance to get valuable experience ahead of next season? It’s a tough one.
     
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    So, if there's a relegation clause he's not doing much about it.

    I say there is no relegation clause and he's leading the League One campaign.
     
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    So we'd have players who haven't won against higher opposition than Barrow for more than half the year and it wouldn't make any difference to how they started league1? Took the Wendies time to get going and they'd managed some wins atthe end of last season.
     
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    It's how he speaks and his attitude since being appointed hasn't been one of keeping us up at all cost. Totally wrong appointment and even without the other issues is going to stop folk from bothering to buy season tickets .
     
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    I've accepted since November when Khaled said he wasn't considering it
     
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    Really don't think it would make all that much difference no. We had many players who finished 5th last season and look how poor they were this. What we need is a more balanced squad and a higher level of coach.
     
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    What about a sanity clause?
     
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    League retention went out of the window ages ago infact I'd say after hearing conways it cost us £500,000 to go through the playoffs and no praise for any one in doing so plus the many references of "It doesn't matter which League we are in", coming from respective people of power then I'd call it an organised relegation.
    The PMG system suits lower League football and gives them more scope in developing and trading players to higher placed clubs...
    Crew Alexander managed it successfully for years doing more or less the same ....we in some respect are the modern day version off that idea...
    We can shout from the roof tops until we are blue in the face, but our frustrations are only going to start getting worse, because all that complaining on our part is not going to make one ounce of difference to them
    Conway and Co have repeatedly informed us that they the PMG are not going to put any of their own money into the club nor are they going to change their business model.
    To date to me, it's just a case of everything that is happening is a case of all parties just going round in circles stating their case.
    We want one thing they want another, we measure success on the field they off it, different priorities different ideas on what is deemed has successful .
    The questions raised are answered basically with, I refer you back to the business plan no matter how we dress it up.
    We have a CEO who can do very little given the situation we are in, he has taken on a role in which the situation he finds himself in is not of his making becoming and is yet another trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and taking all the flack for it.
    Yes he handled the west stand situation wrong in my opinion and many others but non of us were privy to the pressure on him from above
    How long will it be before he chucks the towel in and realises he's on a hiding to nothing with the way PMG conduct their business model a model that on the field of play is failing in all their clubs
    Personally I'd say theres no wonder that so many staff in many departments have jumped ship here at Oakwell I'd lay money the common denominator in it all Paul Conway and I've never met the man
    Conways infamous 21 worded statement spoke volumes on how little he regards sentiment ĺet alone his, it cost us £500.000 follow up
    The old saying there's no room for sentiment in business is certainly being strictly adhered to in this case and the other clubs he's involved in too.
    Has much as I want PMG out, all this trouble could have been solved by tweaking the data led spread sheet by allowing for 2 older heads in the spine of the team to be brought in....as shankley and cloughie once said its not rocket science you need a strong spine in the team then fill the rest of the places with kids who can run all day this would still leave PMG with 9 places to develop and trade add a decent coach and both parties happy....once that's achieved we can then talk about returning the 750.000 that's been taken out of the coffers
    Factor in Paul Conway staying out of the manager/ coaches ear then harmony abounds
     
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    I think you need to ease off whatever it is your drinking or taking.

    Were you disappointed when Morais was sacked? Because Asbaghi is markedly worse than him.
     
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    And that's saying summet !!!
     
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    Possession of the ball, passing interplay, actual playing football is so much better than we have seen since Struber left. The results are shocking but the footballing aspect is better. It seems fans want results and if the football is **** then so what results is all what counts. Vals team got results but the football was non existent.
     
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    There was plenty of " football" under Val. Yes we may have more of the ball under Poya but it is very predictable passing, no real attacking intent. I've not been enthused. Cardiff were dire, Boreham wood beat Bournemouth today yet we still barely laid a glove on them.
     
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    If someone asked me what manager from the last ten years would you want currently I think I’d go for Struber.
     
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    Possession of the ball !!!

    Passing interplay !!!

    The footballing aspect is better !!!

    Either you are taking the p*** or I’m seriously missing something here
     
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    62 % possesion against Cardiff, we are playing some good football but cant score or keep a clean sheet.
     
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    What we played under Val wasnt football, it was kick and rush, high back line bypass midfield and a high press, low percentage of possession.
    It was short term successful and gave results without possession, it was exciting but it certainly wasnt good football.
     
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