OT: BBS anonymous voting intentions poll

The answer is obvious from the article, the residents of Barnsley should stump up an extra £688 each. Any takers?

 

Why would he bankrupt the country?

 

Makes sense. The country's been swimming in profit these last 8-9 year...

 

Ridiculous visions about re-nationalisation of all these services and utilities. Driving big business away through taxation, pretending to be one the side of 'the many not the few'. Nothing in their manifesto was costed effectively, they just think they can tax the hell out of the country.. It will truly be a race to the bottom and we will end up like cold war Russia.

 

How were it not costed effectively ?

 

Here we go, Corbyn the Communist.

He’s not btw he’s a centre left progressive. Lots of countries have publicly owned services and have a far better system than us.

Yo do realise that publicly owned services put money back into the exchequer don’t you, and that money that is currently being syphoned off to private companies and governments abroad would stay in the UK rather than China, France, Germany etc.

Rail as a prime example would start to pay for itself in a small number of years and most of the licenses are due for renewal so the cost wouldn’t be huge.

Energy is a different ball game altogether and one I think would be too much of an issue to bring back. But there’s lots of services that would actually create money for the UK by being state owned.

In terms of taxation and I’m assuming you are talking about Corp tax, the proposal is to increase it below any of the other G20 countries rate so we would still be more competitive than the competition.

In addition trickle down economics doesn’t work, it’s nonsense peddled by governments who care more about corporations than people.

 

Yeah but (...insert standard moan, he’s an IRA sympathiser, he’s a communist, he’s not realistic, he’ll ruin the country...)

And so on.

I think he’d actually make a decent prime minister if given the chance. He won’t be though.

The media would only allow a labour government if a watered down Tory was running the show, a la Mr Blair. All the talk about things getting better and all that - the 97 election was won because The Sun, and all other Murdoch owned media outlets like sky, changed tack from being Tory to backing labour.

The tories had no support anywhere.

The public have been shown time and time again to be easily influenced and it isn’t going to change, the content these days is absorbed from many sources but the end result still the same. And Corbyn has no friends in the media outside the guardian press room.

I have to smile when I read about folk not voting labour due to what Blair did two decades ago - but that they’d never vote Tory due to what they did and what they stand for. So they don’t want the tories for sure but they’re not voting labour either.

That’s fine, there are more than two choices. You can vote Lib Dem or green or independent or even one of the far right lot - even not at all, but you’ll only ever end up with a Tory or labour government. I know what I’d rather.

 

Pretty much sums it up.

It’s the same people who voted UKIP but didn’t realise they were Tories who drank beer and smoked fags.

 

Virtually everything they were asked would be funded by the sae thing. Closing tax loopholes... Just not enough money available. Plus the wealthy will simply move their assets and companies to other shores should he hike up taxes.

 

If Public services were profitable, they would still be public services today. Just to mention one of them, look at the state British Rail was in, I'd say far worse than today.

 

They’re ******* off anyway.

So that’s the answer, don’t tax multi millionaires and billionaires they only move their money away anyway?

Don’t try to catch the Yorkshire Ripper, he’ll only kill all the guards and let himself out straight after. No point.

 

Delete the centre and the progressive bit...He is so far off centre..

Can you give me an example of a modern day successful socialist state?

 

They were sold off because the Tories sold it off in the 70s and 80s. Short term strategy.

Have you ridden a train recently? Most of the ones that are used were supposed to have been taken off the network over 20 years ago. Not only are they a disgrace, but they are bordering on dangerous.

 

Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Canada, Finland.

 

Where did I say don't tax?? Where did I say don't catch criminals??
Centre ground has to to be the way. No far right like the BNP, no far left like Corbyn

 

Great post here... They are not Corbyn socialist style countries...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffre...dic-countries-are-not-socialist/#126e18e774ad

 

No change from British rail then, yet not so much a burden on the public purse.

 

I think you’ll find that the tax loopholes are being closed externally as the Eu are also closing in . Most of the tax loopholes are British influenced and can brought into line be internal pressures .
Labours spending is fit all to to see unlike the Tories and fully costed and scrutinised by independent bodies .
Obviously the sun and mail don’t mention this but most reliable tabloids have acknowledged this .

 

Corbyn isn’t far left. He’s left of centre granted

 

East Coast were profitable and reliable under the last national ownership. After being run down by private company’s . And sold by Tories only to be struggling again whilst shareholders still paid