O/T North Yorkshire Police.

TBF mate.(and I take debate with Portsmouth tyke and disagree on a lot of his ideas)

But I picketed from day 1. Very rarely missed a day. And not once that I can remember failed to reach a picket line. I was the best navigator you could imagine finding every backroad. (No sat nav in those days A5 sized maps )

I have no evidence. Only hearsay. But on the same footing. I’ve met armed forces through work etc. Since. That say that was never the case. But as I say can only take their word for it. Not defending or accusing anyone.

But I’ve never heard first hand from anyone that has concrete proof. It’s generally a friend having been told by a friend with a relative. And after 36 yrs I believe that proof would be out there. Even if they were sworn to secrecy. The truth will come out. Eg the Hillsboro report. Police pointing out cover ups in statements.

One thing I do know for certain is a big number of coppers were cnuts. The Met in the main. Some with numbers missing. Whether it be as thought as army, or for not getting identified individually ?I don’t know. I saw some of the brutality. Was it so no one could identify em. ? That I believe/know to be the case.

 

Well all I can say to that is , do you consider MI5 to be part of the military?

 

I was only young at the time of the miners strike but can remember the news always seemed to be framed against the miners,I kept saying to my dad why is all the country not going on strike to help them, I certainly paid for it in the years that followed being bullied by bosses in a factory for years

 

Absolutely true, except to a degree channel 4. Probably why journalists were one of the biggest providers of food parcels. Kept us going and gave them news. Believe me. this is just the start of the bullying. Take it or leave it brigade. Unemployment at its most destructive fighting to the bottom so to speak.

 

Don’t know mate. I’m aware they’re part of the secret service. Good read for anyone.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-strike-thatcher-real-enemy-within-extremism
I’d advise anyone to read and get a real insight into what we faced. Wake up time and smell the coffee for present and future generations. Especially you Tory working class voters out there who think they care about the working classes. Turkey’s voting for Xmas.
Ps those on horseback waved their sticks. ( not truncheons.) As though they were windmills, striking anyone within arms length. B’stds lot on em. Evil written all over their faces. Protecting their colleagues on ground level. Who were kitted out. Against lads wearing summer clothes and trainers. B’stds.
Was there. wore the Tee shirt.

 

Another good read for all. Netherlands v uk. take note.
https://www.ftadviser.com/pensions/2018/02/13/uk-state-pension-worst-in-the-developed-world/

 

They did. On one occasion they arrested one lad who had been out picketing earlier that day.
Someone had taken a photograph of him and in another incident, another lad I know was beaten
around the head and back with batons.
The "policeman" didn't have any numbers on their uniforms and therefore got away Scot free.

The animosity between police and the former mining communities in Dunscroft and Stainforth still
exists some thirty odd years later.

 

Well I'll leave it at this, the Military intelligence infiltrated the N.U.M. & if you remember the agent went & negotiated a deal with Col. Gadaffi in Libya to try & give us a bad name but He was found out. They will have been most certainly agent provocateurs on the picket lines IMO but what it really comes
down to is this, if a mining mate of mine tells that they were soldiers on duty during the strike & portsmouth tyke says they weren't, I know who I'm going to believe.

 

Another great read mate. Below.
I’m not here to criticise anyone unnecessarily. Just hard facts. And I’ve never had hard proven facts shown to me. Only someone’s say so. That also applies to Portsmouth tyke. Btw. But as he has no proof either way it would be nye on impossible for him to find any. If none exists.

It’s long winded. But shows what underhand tactics she used. I took it up on the 1984 thatcher v miners. Page 133. Long. Long read. But shows a lot of facts. Eg Infiltration by secret services. How the police were mobilised etc.

http://pfgouiffes.net/uploads/files/091231 Margaret Thatcher and the miners.pdf

Re Gadafi. definitely was a ploy to get union officials to meet him. On the pretence of seeking funds to help along with the strike as NUM funds had been sequestrated. And to try turn the country against the miners. B’stds. 8 months into the Strike that took place.

You can find records on all the underhand tactics. But I’ve never found one that includes the army involvement. If anyone can oblige I’d be genuinely interested.
Believe me. Then I would shout it from the rooftops.

 

With the advances in technology I wonder how feasible it would be to run facial recognition on photos of the bobbys getting ‘stuck in’ and cross referencing them with file photos on their personnel files? Potentially huge task, and also the desire would need to be there from police and government to make it work............

 

To add fuel to the fire.
Found this n’all mate. To support the claims we’ve all heard. So many sightings. but unsubstantiated. ( oh for phone cameras in those days) Some you can easily brush off. but some not so much. Unless we get a full public enquiry. I fear we’ll never know for certain. ( I know it’ll never happen whilst this lot are in charge. And fear any other party including labour would want to drag it back up.)

https://skwawkbox.org/2016/11/08/exclusive-compilation-of-new-orgreave-evidence/

 

I can imagine.

 

Can't see it when the murderers of 96 people at Hillsboro are well known to all relevant authorities and have escaped any kind of retribution for their actions.