Mrs Thatcher vs The Miners

Unfortunately because of pricework worker against worker has been happening for years in construction.

 

Not saying things are ideal far from it but what chance on your own ?

 

I've been self employed for 8 years now and love it, I do all the joinery for a mate who builds about 10 houses a year so it keeps me busy.

 

Rather than done in stealth, the loss of workers’ rights will be celebrated.

“These were rules, the EU imposed on us! These very rules would have held back the Great British Recovery! Now the great British workforce is free to Build Back Better!”

More thumbs-up, tub-thumping from the Great Cult Leader, his followers will lap it up, and make sure of another landslide victory.

 

Then obviously for you it’s ok for now , obviously they’ll be many more not as lucky .
Being in a union is not all about the good or bad times . It’s about helping each other .

 

It’s a lot easier for the Tories now they have installed their own people in the BBC , they install obvious bias journalists into top positions (Kuensberg) etc who give them an easy ride . They now have influence on the vast popular media that we read or watch and pummel social media with populist rumour mongering .
The right have never had it so good regards the propaganda they hold sway with and for now the population are cheering in the front room whilst having their freedom burgled on the back room from the agents of their adoration.

 

Just saw this on Twitter if anyone has any free time and wants to help:

 

But this is what the brain dead voted for when they voted leave and put the tories in.
Never forget.

 

I’m a proper lefty, strongly believe in unions, but unfortunately nowadays the reality doesn’t match the original aims.
Here’s a story that was one of the nails in the coffin (before I left the Union).
I was working in IT support at a large site >400 users. We had at the time some really crap Fujitsu monitors, one of the known problems with which was that when the power was disconnected suddenly, they’d blow a capacitor when switched on. This would usually result in the monitor colour going awry, but just occasionally it meant there’d be a loud pop and a puff of smoke from the rear of the unit.

One summer afternoon, we had the mother of all thunderstorms, resulting in the IT team having to take down half a dozen servers safely before the UPS drained.

So as the power came up we were still very busy, restoring servers and telephony kit safely. Imagine our surprise when we heard a tannoy announcement from the union rep, announcing to staff that it might be unsafe for them to switch on their monitors. And that they should wait for the IT staff to do it instead!

3 things here:
1 if it was dangerous, I’m no more protected than anyone else.
2 if the dozy mare had wanted to genuinely protect her members, it might have occurred to her that we were members too.
3 Unlike the rest of the staff who weren’t exactly under pressure to get back working, we were running around like blue arsed flies already trying to ensure everyone had system access.

But said union rep wanted to be seen to be doing something for the H&S of her members, so inconvenient facts weren’t really relevant.

There were many much wider issues, but when it came to having to change my payment details to remain a member; despite being a very good mate of the union rep (as one of the ‘leftiest’ on site) I couldn’t be arsed. Because the senior union leadership were only interested in posturing towards the majority of members and protecting those who didn’t deserve any support.

 

Our local union rep was a better salesman than representative unfortunately, he was always too busy to turn up for consultations and redundancy meetings, so as for helping each other my experience of unions was more a case of subscriptions being paid to fund a chest thumpers cushy job.
I'm not saying this is the norm but it was certainly my experience.

 

Those two cases seen to be about bad or incompetent trade union reps than about trade unionism as a whole .
I can’t defend bad or incompetent reps or bad experiences my points are in general .
Fir what it’s worth I’ve had bad representation my self .
This is either dealt with by re election or inspiring yourself to make the difference and put up.
But the bigger picture is the representation at senior level and changing bad Government legislation .
One example is the banning of women and children in the mines many years ago which at the time was monumental .
Trade unionism isn’t just about taking on the Government and the bosses it’s about changing laws by consultation as well .
Yes I know it’s hard to believe but even some Tories have a heart and help change laws for the betttr by listening to trade unions or social groups .

 

I've always been a union man because I truly believe if we are united we are indeed stronger. a line from a Slayer song goes thus: Divide & manipulate & forever rule the weak.

 

I watched it and wished I hadn't. A load of poorly researched, unbalanced tripe. How can a serious documentary on the subject not cover things such as NACODS voting 80% for strike action 6 months into the dispute and not using the mandate. It would have shut every pit in the country, as they couldn't operate without the supervisory grades.

 

My daughter's in the middle of a creative writing piece about women against the pit closures for her history degree. I said she should ask on here if she had any questions!

 

These women were at the forefront of the miners strike especially the Houghton Main area .
Married to miners who were also very active in the strike .
Maybe the book might be of help and I’m sure they would be very helpful if you contacted them personally as they’re very approachable and commited people .
https://storiesofactivism.group.she...en-pit-closures-houghton-main-pit-camp-19923/
They were also active during the miners strike as well .

 

Thanks Marlon.

 

She should contact Anne Scargill

 

Not sure about this but, did King Arthur Scargill ever engage Thatcher in a head to head?

 

Not a violent person. But I’d have had a shot, head to head. Headbutt that is. The saying goes, never hit a woman. But in her case

 

King Arthur would have ad that no mark cancer in knots, no doubt.