Mr Conway you’re cash cow just netted for Wigan - Best transfer window ever eh ?

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  1. Fon

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    "Obviously in my position I can't reply to that"

    Not "I know more than you, you are all agenda driven"

    That's all it takes surely?
     
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    I agree he shouldn't have been asked to comment but at the same time the accusation that people who dislike the disgraceful way our owners have acted have got an agenda is completely uncalled for. Our agenda is loving barnsley football club and wanting the best for it.
     
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    The future of the club is in doubt just by the fact we’re in L1 next season. Worst time ever to be relegated to the third tier.
     
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    Personally I'm cutting folk some slack in the way they post given the current climate.
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    I get that, but we are all human beings buddy. I get a little fed up of folk referring to me in such a manner. I ought not to bite really. But it can be tough, you know?

    There’s a lot of nonsense posted on the bbs, always has been. I’ve been a habitual culprit myself. But that was a fairly simple explanation as to why I don’t engage in these threads. It’s futile.
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if this is a serious post. But for the record, ‘on the pot’ refers to me reading the bbs whilst sat on the toilet. The pot being the toilet. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    It's probably the hysteria and extreme views that led him to write that. It's what makes me 'go in to battle' sometimes on Twitter and Facebook, but then trying to put a positive slant or an alternative view on anything has you labelled a happy clapper and the insults start.

    These players aren't utter utter dross. We haven't signed dross. We're guilty of signing too many inexperienced players in one go, but I don't think we've signed bad footballers. Our league position since Struber took over proves that.

    It isn't a 'wanky spreadsheet' as it's the same spreadsheet that heralded the players everyone is complaining that we let go. The same spreadsheet that led to calls for 'new heroes'. You can't have those new heroes if you didn't sign heroes in the first place.

    Chaplin has been a great signing. Halme looks like he could become a very good player for us. What a find Simoes and Styles could prove to be. Everyone demands that Oduor starts. Cauley Woodrow must have a move lined up he's not interested. Watch us sell all our players when we get relegated.

    If the spreadsheet was so wanky, why are people making the above comments? This team, only in my opinion, is better than both teams that have been relegated from the Championship before.
     
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    In my opinion it's much much worse. It has a few good players in it but some absolute dross too. The spreadsheet is imo **** because it is far too restrictive.

    The insults have always come for anyone who dares criticise too it's a two way street.
     
  9. Fon

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    Fair enough.

    Point taken.
     
  10. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I've never insulted anyone. Had plenty of insults back.

    So the recruitment policy is the problem, not the spreadsheet? Glad we've got that cleared up. Because that's what the majority of fans would agree on I think.

    This team, as I think the points tally proves, is better than the one WIlson took down. I could have a healthy debate on whether it's better than the one Morais took down, but without McBurnie that team was awful, where as this one still gives me hope.
     
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    I don’t have to defend anyone, and where in this have I even tried to?

    The chap asked where I was, as I - according to him - defend the indefensible. And thus I explained why I don’t engage in such threads. Because I’m not in the best place to. I read theories and claims, and I know the validity (or not) of them. So it’s futile. But, it’s interesting to read.

    I’ve never passed anything like a comment, or defence, other than to remind folk that we have to sell players as a club, to function. And anyone should know that. That isn’t top secret info.
     
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    Maybe they didnt see Wigan as rivals as they assumed Jossy's Giants were going to steamroll the championship
     
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    i don’t think YT is the one to pick a fight with here
     
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    Simple facts. The owners don’t really care which league we play football in.

    develop players in league one, sell them for a few bob.

    If they had half an ounce of bravery they’d see what Brentford have done with the same model and replicate it. That requires a few quid though and some ********.
     
  15. Loko the Tyke

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    Come on ........ Brentford haven't used the same model at all. There's massive investment gone in there. They didn't start from a standing start, and one season of it going wrong would have seen them in trouble. You're not comparing like for like there mate.
     
  16. Arc

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    What motivates a consortium of overseas investors to put an initial £6m with £1m pa for another five years to buy 80% of an unfashionable yo yo team between the Championship and League one?

    In the past owners have had a connection with the club and the area. They’ve also used their own funds to try to improve the fortunes of the team. At best I think BFC was cheap, at worst a bit of a free roll. Maximum investment £11m for a business with £5m on the balance sheet.

    The current owners, despite claimed astronomical wealth, have made it clear they will not bank roll the club. They have though, sought to increase their exposure to football with the purchase of other clubs across Europe. The constant reference to player trading suggests that the establishment of a player trading model across a number of clubs across Europe is the definition of success.

    The motive of the owners no longer aligns with the hopes of the supporters. In ten years time they will be gone but what is left behind may we’ll be very different to the club they took over.

    I may be totally wrong but time will tell....
     
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    It wasn't.
     
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    You’re using the word agenda in a different context though. I also used the words ‘guesswork’ and ‘slender knowledge’, because much of what fans post is exactly that. Because fans aren’t (rightly or wrongly) privy to all of the facts. In terms of agenda and how I meant it - I mean that each poster on this forum for example, has an agenda, an outlook on things. It colours how they post. For example, Red Rain. He’s very analytical and very swayed towards the financial side of things and thus he is seen as very pro-club whatever their decisions. That’s how I read him anyway. So when he puts an opinion forward, it’s driven by his agenda. In my eyes. Whereas, you are a well known critic of the club. You could find fault where nobody else could. It’s not just football either. You regularly post about all manner of topics and they’re usually of a critical or questioning nature.

    That’s what I was getting at anyway.

    It’s what makes the bbs what it is. I still read the forum every day. It often depresses the life out of me, but I actually give a **** and care what the fans are thinking and saying. It’s important to me to gauge the mood etc. And as I say, I’m only human and I remember where I came from. So sometimes I fight hard as hell not to bite, not to post, not to put things straight. I sometimes drop the ball. :(
     
  19. pompey_red

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    They’ve used exactly the same methodology!

    why did warburton quit brentford? Why did they get rid of their academy?

    Simple game, buy players or acquire cast offs, develop them and sell on. I’m sure the stats are out there to see that brentford have made millions, all the while improving the team by selling at the right time and not selling 6 of the team!

    what they’ve done better though is bought better raw material. That might have been luck, better recruiting or it might have been due to spending more upfront, either way it makes our shower of ***** board look like pound shop millionaires.
     
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    over £130m investment from the owner helps.
     
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