Mads

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  1. noksucow

    noksucow Well-Known Member

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    Seams plays better without a crowd and the constant barrage of abuse from fans
     
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    Probably most improved player since lockdown
     
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    I don't say experience meaning knowing what to do. It's probably more concentration and handing pressure of games that are leading to these errors.
     
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    Think sometimes a defender is a bit like a keeper, where they can have a good game but make one big **** up and get remembered for that than the other 20 good things in a game.
     
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    Too harsh I think. He is willing to learn, has kept pushing through despite his errors and I think he's done well this season.
     
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    I think mads has suffered due to the policies adopted by our club. Young inexperienced but definitely talented he was part of the youngest defence in the league he made some bad mistakes and lost confidence but we kept playing him. Now he has got his confidence back he benefitted from playing with an experienced centre half and since lockdown has been our best and most consistent player with the possible exception of Walton. All players make mistakes. But Mads was unlucky I that for a time every mistake seemed to lead to a goal. The number of mistakes made at the other end of the pitch leading to us not scoring a goal is far higher but no one is talking about those. I think next season he could be one of our key players.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    This is so incredibly harsh. Comments like this are why I took a break from the BBS this week.

    You can say you don't rate him, say that he makes too many mistakes, and on both opinions you'd have a valid point. But to say he's absolutely **** it's like come on. That simply isn't true. He's obviously a talented defender, as he's proven for us in far more than three games - especially with experience next to him.
     
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    I think he has the potential to be a great player. It has to start with doing the basics consistently well at the level he plays. He has not done that this season so we will keep using the words ‘potential to be...’. Still a long way to go.

    interesting that we didn't play Pinnock much when last in the championship. When Brentford took a calculated Punt on the young league one player they also signed up an experienced championship centre half to pair up. Some would say best pairing in the division.
     
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    There may be some truth in that too - which is shameful when you think about it.
     
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    Unless I’m mistaken, Brentford didn’t play him initially either. I don’t think he was injured, they just had the luxury of being able to ease him into the team.
     
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    White and Cooper for me at Leeds, but same principal young and experienced together
     
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    yes he started season then was in and out and disnt cement a regular place till around Oct.
     
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    Which is the perfect way of bringing a new signing into the team. Layering, as we were told we were going to do. What we actually did was throw a load of kids together, none of whom had any Championship experience, many of whom had no experience of English football at all. Insanity.
     
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    yeah usually because we operate on a model which dismantles first then reassembles. Be better if we could keep a team together, transition players in and build a succession. Then selling may be more reliable in terms of future on field ability.
     
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    Appreciate it's difficult to look for positives when staring relegation in the face. But they inherited those contracts and appear to be trying to avoid the dismantling stage you mention in future seasons.

    Now, we can debate the quality of the players on the longer contracts but for me it's definitely a signal that we're trying to avoid first team players getting to 12 months to go at the same time. With 4/5 year contracts at least we have flexibility of when to sell, when to extend, when to 'layer', etc.

    There's pro's and cons to this strategy of ours, but I feel once you crack staying in the Championship once you can really build an established Championship team. Which is why it would have made sense to keep Pinnock, lose the others (there was literally no chance of Lindsay, Davies and Moore staying), and added a Sollbauer type in midfield in the Summer at the expense of either Wilks or Thomas.

    Easy sitting on the outside of it all though.
     
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    all true of course, but for the past 6-7 seasons, maybe more we haven’t done a very good job of it
     
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    Every strategy we've tried hasn't worked yet but this one we have now feels the most promising with some tweaks. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe the time to build was after Flicker kept us up. Would have been incredibly harsh, but we kept too many players that performed above themselves in that amazing fight for survival.
     

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