Jackson for McDonald

Agree with most of that excluding pace. Roberts way quicker. Wasn't he near the top of the pre season speed tests?

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I'd have to say I think Roberts is the better tackler - but I think his positioning isn't quite as good as Mawson's thus he had to make more tackles to amends

 

Yes I've read your points, and like I said the main emphasis of your early points was that Mawson is a better CB than Roberts an idea which I didn't agree with, you then made a really ridiculous point about him being better on the ball than John Stones which is so hilariously wrong I'm pretty sure most pundits and fans would call you much worse names than I have. I disagreed with this, then you mentioned I knew nothing about football and should go watch Sheffield Steelers and you still haven't really countered my point with any sort of logical argument. I don't really know how you think you've won this argument, I can guarantee if you started a poll in the morning who was a better CB or like I have been saying a better defensive CB then I could guarantee you I would "win" but I don't really care about winning, you just seem like someone who's obsessed with being right and wouldn't carry a rational argument without starting on with the personal abuse. I'm not trying to "wangle" out of anything I'll argue with you all night I've no problem with that

 

Tackling: Roberts is better at tackling on the ground and I'd say just about edges it when staying on his feet
Heading: Roberts
Reading the game: Mawson never disputed that
Organisation: Roberts has that as well, Mawson proved at the beginning of last season that he couldn't organise a defence and couldn't handle captaincy
Distribution: Again obviously Mawson
Pace (Physical nature in general): Roberts has him on toast for that, he's taller, stronger and quicker

Like I said Mawson is much better on the ball, never disagreed with that but like I said defensively, physically and in terms of organisation I prefer Roberts everyday. Now go back and tell me other than a difference of opinion why you decided to start this whole thing in the 1st place?

 

I havent started anything. Merely made a point which you disagreed with, hence the following conversing of points as to why each of us believes what we believe.


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No you said I knew nothing about football, go back and check if you want

 

No

The only way he's going to develop is by playing as many games as possible at this level.

I can only imagine dropping him would have a negative effect on his confidence.

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You believe that Mawson is the best ball playing English defender?

That's a very bold statement considering he's played 4 times in the top 2 divisions.

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Keeping an out of form player in the team would have a negative effect on our results though. Didn't close the man down well enough for the first yesterday and has started to look tired. Defence is struggling for clean sheets and let in 4 in 2 so a defensive change tuesday night wouldn't be a shock.

 

We've conceded 5 in 5 and kept 2 clean sheets in 5 games against 2 top teams, two mid table teams and Rotherham since he came in, I'd consider that pretty good work from a guy that came from Torquay and who's say Jackson won't be exactly the same

 

I agree it would.

But is he out of form or learning his trade.

I can't comment on the game yesterday but he did well against Reading at home and Preston the week before. He's made a massive step up in such a short period of time and to think that he can just walk into the team and not make the occasional error is wrong. Especially considering the player he replaced, despite being very good, also was prone to the occasional error too.

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The defensive problems have come from wide areas IMO not from the centre backs

 

The defensive problems in the last two games have come from the front two, dropping Marley, our only real target man who can hold it up and link up well with others, has had an affect on our defensive capabilities. The midfield has been none existent and easily bypassed in both games.
The back 4 on the whole have coped with the extra pressure well, so in my opinion the back 4 should remain the same.


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Back to the original post and with a personal insult thrown in as I believe that's an essential content piece - Juddy G is a ****. I have reservations about McDonald, but I'd be happy for him to prove me wrong. I don't think he's that good a 'stopper', he isn't dominant in the air, he wins his share, but for example against Reading he lost more than I felt comfortable with. He's worrying in possession, he doesn't look a natural footballer able to move the ball around as we'd like. We already have one excellent stopper in the team in Roberts. I'd like someone comfortable on the ball, but who can still do defensive basics competently, alongside him. Not seen Jackson to know if he's the one, he talks himself up as a ball playing centre half, but 'Ecky knows best. If it's not Jackson then I'd like us to buy one in January. I see McDonald as a Roberts back up.

 

Bit odd he's not even commented on this thread

 

I know him quite well personally, so I felt ok doing it. It was a joke and he'll take it as such. Don't worry about it

 

Oh fair enough ignore me then

 

I've just read that Alfie Mawson was our best centre back of the last 20 years & that he's better on the ball than John Stones.

I think I'm going back to bed, the world's gone mad

 

Mawson quicker than Roberts? You're on a wind up! Seriously? Wow!

 

My thoughts also .the op points that you can mess about changing the back four as we have done with the forwards are not constructive imo
We are clearly trying to build our team from the back obviously the policy of developing then selling is although essential swings a roundabouts when trying to form ssettle side but it's establishing the back four first is a must imo. I
The first time we have been beaten back to back in a bloody long time and rare occasions these days and some question imo a very good prospect for the future team when tbf it wasn't his doing that our midfield were getting over run and putting the defense under so much pressure from quality attacking players in front of their own crowd .
Yes he's making a few mistakes but by en large he's improving every game .
Hecky and Tommy can see during training sessions who's capable of what so if Jackson warrants a start he'll get one .let's not start negative keyboarding players at this stage especially when it's uncalled for.