Is it plausable

This criticising of the club for saying they retain an interest and made a profit on a departing player is one of the most laughable things I’ve seen in the history of this forum.

Well in, whoever takes part in such talk.

 

We lost £5 million because we went down after buying a load of w*nk. And our CEO is coming out and ******* bragging. F*cking joke.

 

We have sold a footballer and our CEO has given a brief explanation as to the reasons for it. I call it clarity. Honesty even.

It’s purely an explanation of a deal, whereby the club are making it clear that should the player we’ve moved on (who wasn’t featuring here) eventually fulfill the promise we saw in him last summer, at least we retain an interest. On top of receiving more for him, than we paid.

Where’s the bomb?

 

Clarity and honesty?

"Midfielder leaves Oakwell on a permanent deal for undisclosed fee."

Clarity means transparent and precise. The above is the antithesis of that.

"we will retain an interest in Stevie’s future"

What does that actually mean? We can speculate, but we've really no idea. If Barnsley football club simply look at the lad's stats for the rest of his career they can legitimately claim to have retained an interest in him, but I'm guessing that's not what people believe it means. Reality is no one knows what it means because there's no clarity.

I'm aware there may be legitimate reasons why the details of a transfer deal cannot be disclosed. Or the club may just not want to tells us, they don't have to. You can then apologise for a lack of clarity, but you can't claim that's what you're offering. Well, you can, you have, but it's disingenuous.

And honesty...

Add together the transfer fee we paid for Mallan, his signing on fee, agents fees in the deal that brought him to the club and transferred him out of it, and his wages for the time he was here (and any of his contract we paid up for him to go if that was the case).

Then subtract 8 weeks wages.

He played for us 8 times, his wages for those weeks were paid to him for doing a job for us. Whether he did that job well or not, it doesn't matter, he's a football player and we paid him to play football, so that can't be considered part of the cost to bring him here.

But for the rest of the time we paid him to do nothing. Had we not signed him, we would have been in exactly the same position. We could have picked our team, played the games, but been better off by how ever much money it cost to pay Mallan his wages. That's got to be factored in to how much it cost us to bring Mallan here from St Mirren.

Compare the above figure with the money we received from Hibs. Now tell us, honestly, did we make a profit?

It costs us money to sign footballers. It costs us money to pay them to play. But we get something out of it, we get a footballer. The wages and signing on fees and agents fees are paid to get someone to play football for us.

If you buy something for £1000 and sell it for £1500 but it cost you £400 in transport costs and £300 in storage for the time you had it, did you make a £500 profit or a £200 loss? How long could you stay in business if you were doing that kind of deal all the time?

Knasmullner and Mallan weren't footballers they were commodities. We traded them, we bought and sold them, we didn't have them playing football. The statements on the official site are pretty blatant about that and talk about making a profit on the deals. If you're doing that, you have to factor in the total cost, not the baseline transfer figure, otherwise it's anything but honest.

 

The players who have been transferred out, hardly played last season under both managers.

The coaching staff who remain, as well as the board, know more than us and see them day to day. Also I think Knasmuller and Mallan both didn’t settle, so they wanted to go too. Note: they didn’t go to another English team, which speaks volumes.....

Made a profit on both and retained a financial interest. Good business really.

Now the decks are getting cleared, I think we’ll start to see a few come in. Although as ever, maybe one or two Premiership loans might come - but they’ll be late on in the window.

 

Given the wording of the Mallan press release "Stevie had one year remaining on his deal with us which meant we needed to make a decision on his future". If Bradshaw doesn't sign, or is not offered a new contract it would appear he's likely to go.

 

Awaiting the "we have made a loss", on the players we release by mutual consent.

Maybe we lost a bomb on certain players.

 

Really can't see the logic in people complaining about the club stating they've made a profit and retain an interest... they clearly have a policy of not disclosing how much they sell and buy for and many other clubs do the same. So they make this statement to assure fans they're doing good business on the players they no longer want and people kick off about it.

They can't win!!

 

You are always going to have some transfers that work out & some that don't. Hecky said as much last summer that not all would work out.
I expect to see pick profits on the likes of Pinnock, Jackson, Lindsay & Potts when they move & possibly Bradshaw & Moore, if any rumours of offers are true.

Probably losses on Mowatt & Thiam if they were moved on.

Jury out on others. Squad is too big & unbalanced at the minute, so decisions will have to be made.

 

100 lines not good enough mate. You’re confined to your bedroom and grounded for the week-end. Oh, and no England match. Let that be a lesson to you. Plausible indeed.

 

I don't mind being pulled up for spellings but it seems you can also get pulled up for having an opinion.This hot weathers creating havoc on here.Are you ok mate?

 

Opinions are like arseholes.

There are a lot of opinions on this board.

 

Yes thanks, be even better at 5 o’clock if we win of course. Don’t think I’m going out either so it’s going to be sober one. But then again as you say the hot weathers causing havoc, so that could change.

 

Good point.... Or is clarity only allowed when it suits