If a Briton recklessly goes abroad and fails to return when told

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  1. Winker

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    Difficult times when, where, why, who, what, and why caught a lot of people off guard. Sum av bin irresponsible and should be brought to account.
     
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    I have flights to Mallorca booked in a few weeks time. Not heard anything from the airline, even though we know it will be off. Had a trip to Copenhagen/ Malmo planned for the weekend just gone - no foreign nationals allowed through Copenhagen, yet the airline has continually offered alternative flights so that they aren’t “cancelling” the flight I’m not allowed to go on. I sympathise that the airlines are struggling but they are definitely playing a game with customers. Only Easy Jet have actually cancelled and are processing refunds.
     
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    Hang in there as long as you can....my guess is they will cancel.
    We were due to fly to Dusseldorf on April 3rd....only gotbthe email saying cancelled on Friday....so a week before. We can rebook or get vouchers valid for a year. That's Eurowings.
     
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    Just been discussing this on LBC. Yes some of them that are stuck have been selfish and negligent but it sounds like a lot are being messed around by airlines. Whether they should have travelled (only two weeks ago in some cases) is another matter.

    It also sounds like part of the problem is with other governments and airlines who either won't open their airspace or won't agree to flights.

    The FCO have seen an unmanageable increase in calls from British nationals and they just can't cope with demand.
     
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    "The UK ... does not require its citizens to register every time they leave."

    It does, though, doesn't it? I have to provide API for myself and all passengers every time I leave the UK.

    "There is a long-established UK legislative requirement for carriers to supply travel document information (TDI), also known as API (advance passenger information), to the UK government border systems programme, which has subsumed the e-Borders system, for passengers and crew on flights operating to and from the UK.

    "This request for information is made under, and in accordance with, paragraphs 27 (in respect of crew information) and 27B (in respect of passenger and service information) of Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act 1971 and the Immigration and Police (Passenger, Crew and Service Information) Order 2008 (SI 2008/5).

    "Failure to comply with the requirement to provide this information without a reasonable excuse is an offence under section 27(b)(iv) of the Immigration Act 1971 and may also incur a penalty under the Security and Travel Bans Authority to Carry Scheme 2012."

    https://assets.publishing.service.g...hment_data/file/300741/CarrierInformation.pdf
     
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    They didn't pay for me coming home from Ibiza with crabs in 98.
     
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    Our holiday at the end of May would be suicidal or worse, but the holiday company is offering no advice and holding onto thousands in cash for a service they can’t possibly provide.

    I can’t understand why anyone would go on holiday in uncertain times; but the government isn’t doing its job to stop travel.
     
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    If you were abroad in somewhere warm - why the fooking hell would you want to rush back here !?!?!
    Find a room.
    Find a shop selling food and other provisions.
    Go for long walks in the sun.
    End of.
     
  12. Burgundy Red

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    I get what @SuperTyke is getting at in the OP but there are also plenty of grey areas here. What about people like me, who spend half their time abroad? The government advice to me is to return "home" but does it really make sense for me to do so? My wife is French resident and immunodeficient and we've been together down here since late February, before the situation really kicked off. There have been no deaths in our entire département (la Nièvre) and only 12 hospitalisations, 7 of whom are in intensive care and 1 who has recovered and gone home. We're naturally isolated in the middle of nowhere, along a private road, about four hundred yards from our neighbours and a mile outside a small village. The nearest shop is 4 miles away. Even our own letterbox is a few hundred yards away so we simply don't routinely come into contact with anyone. As I posted elsewhere, we're pretty much self-sufficient and have food (and wine) for at least 2 years. I'm currently going out once a week to buy a bucket of milk from the local farm shop but I could knock that on the head if the risks escalated. Given all that, why would I leave my vulnerable wife here on her own and travel 500 miles across a pandemic to return to the UK, where I'd have a choice of either being in a small town or, God forbid, Glasgow, with the need to shop frequently and far more risk of exposure?

    Of course, if we stay together then wherever we are, after 90 days one of us is going to become "unlawfully resident" and periodically switching between the countries to avoid that would be too daft to seriously contemplate under the circumstances. I'm assuming the authorities are going to apply some latitude in that regard, given the prohibition of non-essential travel, although I was reading yesterday that some communes are banning second-home owners from vacationing there to try to head off any outflux from the cities. I think, posting on a public internet forum aside, my best option is to ignore Mr Raab's advice, keep my head down and get some gardening done.
     
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    Sounds like you are doing the right thing and the risk to yourself and others is minimal. Very envious of your setup by the way :)
     
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    It's stupid we are still allowing people in from Spain when they are still on 800+ deaths in a day and another near 10k confirmed cases in 24 hours. Brits should be locked down and not trying to get back to the UK.
     

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