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  1. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Good.

    Couldn't believe it the first time i saw it.
    Thought it was a micky take.
     
  2. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Missing my trips to Costa del Barnsley
     
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    Got a family holiday to Spain booked for the last 2 weeks in June for the wifes 40th, booked before covid was even a thing. The pair of us have worked through the entire pandemic at Asda and to say we are ready for a break is a understatement. However as much as we are ready for the break we are both kind of hoping it gets cancelled.
    When we go on holiday we want to go on one were we can actually relax and enjoy it, not one were sunbeds are spread all over the resort, the kids have to wait their turn for a dip in the pool and the queue for the bar will resemble a conga world record attempt
     
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    Sums up my attitude on everything really. I don't really fancy going anywhere while social distancing is still in force. It's far from enjoyable. Even when things were open through the summer I didn't go to any pubs or restaurants and have hardly been in any shops.
     
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    I think they will be repurposed as living spaces with more restaurants and bars. Probably a good thing longer term though terrible for those who work in those industries.
     
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    This could be the way forward https://www.theguardian.com/artandd...for-britain-stockton-on-tees-park-high-street

    The glassworks wouldn't have got off the ground if it'd been mooted now.
     
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    Because viral variants don't just make it more or less transmissible or more or less dangerous for the vulnerable. It is possible for variants to have vaccine escape, meaning that the vulnerable are once again vulnerable. In addition, a variant in the Spanish Flu virus meant that the second wave killed lots of younger, working age people due to a cytokine storm while barely touching the more senior population. IIRC it killed more in the 20-40 age group than WW1 did. There is the potential for new variants to attack different groups of people. The more people infected, the greater the odds of a new negative variant.

    And secondly, because we won't get everyone vaccinated until a lot later than we have vaccinated the vulnerable. The number fully vaccinated today is about 1% of the adult population. This might take until after the summer. If you want to go on holiday, you might have to be quarantined until that process is complete.

    We should be looking at quarantine free travel only with those countries with above the herd immunity level vaccinated *and* very low incidence of the disease. Anything else risks setting us back to the beginning again.
     
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    Your probley right, not good either if you old fashioned like me and like to go try things on before you part with your cash.
     
  9. Redstone

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    Aren't variants just as likely to occur here?
     
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  10. Loa

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    Yep and the virus will continue to mutate for ever so looks like we'll be staying in our houses for ever.
     
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    It's being reported today that masks and social distancing are set to last until at least the Autumn. Those riots we've seen on the streets of Europe recently look that much closer to happening here.
     
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    We`ll have to get rid of the containers full of em before we see them go.
     
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    If the British population is vaccinated, and the local infection level is minimal - enough for it to be safe to open up fully, then the risk of a new variant *here* is much less than a country where it is endemic. So the biggest risk is someone going on holiday, getting it then coming back home - or a visitor from another country bringing it with them. Hence the need for quarantine incoming.

    You could have multiple country "bubbles" if the risk is very low there. So if the UK and Ireland populations were fully vaccinated and case rates were minimal, you could travel freely between them with minimal risk. If you wanted to go to Brazil though, you'd be quarantined on return. Guernsey did this with the Isle of Man over summer 2020 until a few cases caused the bubble to collapse.

    A new variant is currently much more likely in the UK than Australia or New Zealand, and currently also much more likely in Brazil than here.
     
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    It's been banned not withdrawn.
    If variants have vaccine escape and the vulnerable are susceptible to them, and based on the fact we've only eradicated 2 deadly viruses ever then what you're saying is exactly what I said. Permanent restrictions on life or accepting that people sadly die. Once vaccines are in place it literally is one or the other.
     
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    We booked ours in Sept for June, just had Venice cancelled for next week so rebooked in Sept.

    They can't keep ignoring the vaccine and cases graphs.
     
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    With the variants all I have read so far is that you may still get a mild illness with the vaccine if you catch a different variant. Of course caution is needed but some of the reporting and scaremongering is once again disgusting.
     
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    I always thought the way to go when Barnsley was planning to demolish the Metropolitan Centre monstrosity and replace it with the Glasshouse vanity project, was resurrecting the old Mayday green market areas with a permanent building for fish and meat and the rest open air stalls erected on designated market days and the rest of the week becomes parking spaces in the town centre with a mix of shops, offices, bars cafes and restaurants and residential properties.
    Preferable to the rather characterless shopping malls you can see anywhere with the same old chain shops. It also provides long term employment for people (teams erecting maintaining infrastructure, stalls etc. ) Also far more likely to attract visitors to a 'Traditional market town' from outside the region and initial capital costs (and therefore loan interest repayments) are relatively low. It works well in Europe , France Germany Italy etc all have market towns including stall holders who visit various markets on different days ( each town within an area has different market days, with customised vans that have electric awnings that extend to provide cover. These could be accommodated in a designated spaces with charge points (for future EV commercial vehicles) which would be available the rest of the time on non market days for general users. Too late now of course.
    Anybody arguing outdoor markets only work because the weather is better on the continent wants to try going to markets in Normandy, Belgium Northern Germany, Northern or Central Italy in November thru to March.

    PS whatever happened to the Barnsley Multiplex? Been in Italy over 8 years now and still no sign of it as far as I am aware.
     
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    The cinema you mean?

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    Interesting thanks! Where is it located, (when we left Barnsley it as going to be in the Alhambra but I thought all that had changed? Which cinema chain is it and how many screens will it have ? I suspect the scheduling has been delayed, and development stalled given lockdowns and cinemas being shut down for so long. Always amazed me how Barnsley (which is actually quite a big town) was completely devoid of a modern multiscreen Cinema complex although respect to the enthusiasts who managed to keep the old Odeon building running for what was supposed to have been a short very temporary period.

    Always annoyed me that you had to go to Meadowhell, Meadowhall Retail Park or Wakefield to watch films in a modern Cinema. I love cinema and nothing quite beats the experience of watching films projected onto a big screen as the Director intended although having splashed out on a good 4K projector and 7:1 surround sound receiver (Dolby Atmos etc) that can upscale we get a lot of stuff streamed on Netflix, Prime* and Blu Ray disks including 3D stuff it is fair substitute.
    *Prime video quality is not up to the same standard as Amazon IMO as they must limit bandwidth and you get some strange rainbow/banding effects etc. in dark/night scenes. Watched 'The Dig' the other night on Netflix (big screen) and both sound and video were excellent.
     

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