Has coward conway had the balls to speak yet?

They (Dane?) admitted last year that lessons needed learning on the comms side.

There may indeed be nowt to say, but when rumours make the national press, following on from some very public dirty laundry..... then sometimes it makes sense to come out and say there's nowt to say.

Or summat.

 

Oh I'm not sure they would but I do not trust them one bit. They haven't earned my blind trust in them and as such they need to prove themselves. If they come out and flat out say these allegations are all COMPLETE lies and explain why they haven't even paid everything they owe for buying the club yet and explain why they waited 2 years to try to buy the land which had a six month purchase clause in it then I'll give their words some credibility. But as they refuse to do anything like that then the logical stance to take with someone who has lied to you in the past is to distrust them. Isn't that the logical stance?

 

It isn't blind faith. If the club moved out of town it would simply fold IMO so they wouldn't risk losing their initial investment. Makes absolutely zero sense. So it's not blind faith in our owners it is just looking at it from a business sense point of view.

 

I think they have as much integrity as the Crynes

 

In a world where fans aren’t allowed to attend, the venue at which the games are played has little relevance.

 

But when we are allowed back and the owners have moved the home games to Lancashire won't a winter's day or night trip over the Pennines and back at least once a fortnight be fun for you us fans especially the older supporters.

 

There are some unsettling parallels in that story, when read in light of recent developments.

80% equity purchased, existing party retains 20%. Minority owner subsequently falls out with purchasers and departs club approximately 2-3 years afterwards (albeit it's described as an early settlement of a pre-agreed condition to utlimately sell the 20%).

It's not an identical scenario, but its fair to say that reading it doesn't increase my confidence in our majority shareholders.

 

My concern with American owners of a sports team is that they don't appreciate the synergy between the Club, the fans and the local community. We are not a franchise. Unlike the US where owners of Football, Baseball and Basketball will relocate the 'franchise' literally thousands of miles. In 1958 the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants baseball teams moved to California. In 1980 Atlanta Flames ice hockey team move countries to Calgary in Canada. The affiliation of fans and their local community with their football club is an alien concept to American owners. To them the Club is a product to be marketed for financial gain. If this move goes ahead we will have sold our heritage for 'a mess of potage'.

 

On face value it looks similar in that the French 20% said they fell out cos of lack of investment from consortium. It could be argued it’s similar with the issue over the ground purchase if they can’t find.

 

There's even more recent examples that that. The Memphies and Oklahoma City NBA sides moved front Vancouver and Seattle (I think) this century.

Worrying times imo.

 

What do you think of Rob Conway fella? Can't quite make up my mind from your comments so just wish you would stop sitting on the fence as I don't want you getting splinters

 

There have been more than sixty franchise moves in NFL, Baseball, Ice Hockey and Basketball.

 

That's right GK, but the US scene is a million miles away from that in the UK. The support of a football team
on this side of the pond is " tribal" and as we know, the history of some of our clubs go back to the 1880's.
I honestly can't begin to imagine the level of support we would enjoy, were the Club to be moved out
of the Barnsley area. I will never ever forget the "atmosphere" that pervaded the entire town during our one
and only season in the Premiership.

The whole town appeared to be proud of our achievement and it certainly put the town of Barnsley " on the map."
On matchdays, I used to drive into town with my wife at around midday. After parking up, first stop was the Victoria
tea rooms in the arcade. Two coffees, a scone with butter and jam for my lady and a bacon butty for me.

Up into town next and into the Market, where we bought our meat, fish and fruit and veg for the week. As you
walked round the town in your team shirt or wearing a Club scarf, passers by used to smile and quite often
utter a " you Reds". I would then make my way to Oakwell whilst my wife carried on shopping.

Now accompanied by my son and grandson, we park up at Oakwell around 45 minutes before kick off.
With sixty franchise moves in the US market it's easy to understand why the same levels of tribalism might
not be present.

 

Do you live your life just to be a negative boring *******? Jesus Christ, you need a couple of blonde birds to keep you entertained on a night other than constantly moaning on here

 

I can fully appreciate what you say, but I go back to my original post. It is a cultural thing not just tribal. For a night out, someone in Britain would never say "shall we go to the game or take in a movie". Football in Britain is more than entertainment it is visceral.

 

So as it stands the only people not to have made a statement are the people who are causing the **** storm. According to BMBC and Cryne family statements it's the consortium that are the ones not progressing the deal. BMBC say they've had no contact at all from the 80% mob a direct contradiction to various statements from the 80% mob who've said talks were ongoing. The Crynes say they are ready and willing to sell at the agreed price and are waiting for the 80% mob to come back to them with the money again contradicting statements from the 80% mob. We have a group of supposedly very rich people who it would appear can't or won't fully complete agreed purchases of both the club and ground yet in various other groupings are going round Europe aquiring clubs right left and centre. From the outside looking in they appear to be a group of chancers sending little of their own cash and gaining great reward when the clubs are sold on

 

Completely disagree. They still rely on season ticket money for revenue even now. If they decided to move out of time, I certainly would cut ties as I am sure many others would.

 

Your argument is still predicated on fans being allowed into stadia.

 

Not really. The club have got millions of pounds of season ticket this year and there are no fans in the stadium. Move the club and thousands of fans won't buy those tickets.

 

Yeah you are missing the point. Of course they have money this season. But next year if they had decided to up sticks to another place, they have no chance of retaining a fan base to sell season memberships to next season. Regardless of whether we are allowed in stadiums, the club would simply not survive without that income. It would become pointless..