George Floyd

Nor is it the first time an unarmed white man has and it won't be the last of that either.
If we accept police must be racist because black men are more likely to be killed than white men we must also accept they are sexist as men are far more likely to be killed by police than women. 1 in something like 176,000 compared to 1 in 3.5m.

 

I can see that people don't like paying more but when you have a section of the population not covered at all Obama care was a start. Bearing in mind as well that you lose your job you lose your health insurance and that could happen to anyone. I suppose a lot of those not voting would come from poorer areas as well, like here.

 

You really arent getting it are you?

 

I think you may have incorrectly tried to draw a line between something I posted earlier and your response to Mansfield - and as such you’ve proper got your knickers in a twist.

I’ve no idea why you’ve decided to support the racists on this issue - it doesn’t strike me as aligned with your political views, but I appreciate you sometimes like to fight just for the fun of it.

 

Explain it then. Explain why a man killing a man is automatically deemed a racist killing.

 

I haven't supported any racists so to be honest you can **** off saying that.

 

Because it happens too often. Maybe in this case they ll look into this cops background and find he's a full on supporter of black rights but I think that's a lot less likely than Barnsley winning the championship this season.

 

I saw it somewhere that he's already been photographed wearing clothing with racist slogans

 

So he is a racist because someone else did something? Isn't that a bit prejudiced to think that?

Derek Chauvin (the officer) has previously shot at and killed a white man. Is he still racist?

Is it not possible hes just a thing with a thirst for blood? He's shot at and attempted to kill two men in the past, George floyd was his third attempted or Actual murder. He had 18 complaints against his name. Is it not far more likely that the man was a murderous individual rather than that he was just a racist?

I have provided lots of evidence to suggest my view that he is a murderer who would kill anyone given the chance. Nobody has provided any evidence of him being a racist. The only argument anyone has for that is 'but he's white, George was black'.

 

As I stated earlier you can enjoy killing and kill white and black. You can also still be a racist. You have yet to provide the evidence he isn't. Over to you.

 

That was proven to be fake. It's a man who looks vaguely like him.

 

So essentially no, you have nothing to suggest he's a racist but I have to prove someone isn't something?

I'm not saying he isn't racist, I'm saying there's nothing to suggest it was a racially motivated attack and that automatically assuming so is bang out of order and causes more deaths.

 

I’m not saying he is racist; but if he is and we bend over backwards to ignore it - that also causes further deaths.

if you can’t win either way - I’ll side with the non racists

 

Best just assume everyone is a racist then just in case eh?

Is it better to guess someone is racist and riot based on that? Or to know he's a murderer, charge him with murder and do an investigation?

 

I’m not rioting, I’m sat watching a box set and chilling after a sunny day in the garden and a lovely barbecued spatchcock chicken.

I don’t assume everyone is racist, you can have your own count of the number of times I’ve refused to say this cop is racist.

But I’m not gonna pretend there’s no institutional racism in the US that’d be mad.

 

I haven't said there is no institutional racism either. What I have said is that it is just as likely that institutional racism and historic racism leading to higher violent crime amongst black people is the cause for a higher than ordinary level of deaths as it is that all the police who kill a black man are themselves racist killing for racist reasons.

Let's be honest here. They aren't rioting because they think Derek Chauvin wasn't racist, they're rioting because they are labelling it a racist killing. Their sole evidence for that is skin colour.

 

I’d guess (and I can only guess) they’re not rioting because one black guy got murdered.

 

Link for you

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

Have a read of that and you'll see why more black men are killed by police. You'll also see that the racism lies at the beginning of the chain not at the end.

 

Once more WTAF.
Have you read a single word I’ve posted? Or did you just decide something and that’s what you’ve been arguing against anyway - meanwhile defending the indefensible in pursuit of trying to appear ‘nuanced’?

 

It's a link which has figures in demonstrating exactly what I've been saying. That (due to a lack of opportunities) black men in America commit more face to face and violent crimes. That in turn leads to more confrontations with the police and more police killings.

Is that, with the evidence I've presented a likely scenario?

Which is more likely? That? Or that police are assassinating black men due to a racist campaign?