EFL Statement

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  1. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Sure I had read somewhere that all evidence had now been given and they were deliberating

    in which case, no excuse.
     
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    He's been in touch with an Austrian law company. They have a couple of 18 year old trainee lawyers with huge potential.
     
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    I think its pretty clear, imho that the EFL, is scared to death to make any kind of judgement. that may appear controversial.
    Despite their guidelines (not rules) their wishy washy approach to applying any kind of compliance is beyond them. They neither have the expertise nor staff to implement any compliance within football. Deep down they know legally, despite 90% of the teams taking the p#ss, they are powerless to stop it all because the clubs have better lawyers than they do and will tie them up in paper work, for 2 years, something they were never set up to do.
    I expect, Wigan to have their 12 points deducted (because thats easy for them) but anything else ie weds, derby will have a small points deduction but not enough to matter. You only have to look at their governance around club ownership (fit and proper, due diligence) to appreciate how inept the organisation is.
     
  4. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

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    sadly I think you’re right
     
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    loyal tyke mb Well-Known Member

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    Why cant each club have a vote in cases of financial mismanagement and let majority rule as happened with Rangers in Scotland ? Surely EFL should check financial viability of all clubs to commence and complete new season before it starts there will be more Burys Bolton and Wigans to come .,
     
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    Soon sorted Macclesfield out!
     
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    Just been speaking to a SWFC friend of mine (believe it or not he`s a nice bloke). His perspective on it was that both Wednesday`s and Derby`s transactions were done with the full knowledge of Parry`s predecessor and then only came to light under the new regime and made a fuss of by the Middlesborough chairman who carries some clout with Parry and the EFL.
    Now this would seem to be causing great embarrassment to the EFL and,of course, Gibson at Middlesborough won`t now have the same interest as he had a few weeks/months ago.
    For this reason my mate thinks the EFL will not carry out the punishments on Wed/Derby this season and hide behind the statement just issued.
    No idea if this carries any validity or not - just passing it on.
     
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    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

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    It’s glaringly obvious that the efl isn’t fit for purpose and suffers from hiding under the stairs syndrome.
     
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    ATYKE1 Well-Known Member

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    Could the EFL`s fear come from the thought that the "big clubs" will try to make allies of the Premier League to jump ship to a 2nd tier PL if they get any form of punishment?
     
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    It's clear that current football regulations are virtually unenforceable as clubs will appeal, filibuster and ultimately wriggle out of them. It's time the whole system was overhauled, a new league system set up with a fair rule book and every club that wants to play in it agrees to abide by the rules as interpreted by those in charge. If they at some point in the future don't like it they're free to leave and find another league to play in.
    Will never happen of course and if it did the big boys and wannabe big boys would never sign up to it. Wouldn't bother me one bit though. I have zero interest in the chequebook Premier League. I haven't seen a Premier League game in donkey's years. I'd rather see us play in a system where we're not defeated before we start by financial doping on an industrial scale.
     
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    The EFL are hiding behind an alleged independent body which imo had been set up to do the will of the EFL governing body to divert any controversy ,
    The outcome of Wendy/Derby is already fixed imo and won’t t include relegation this season .
    Easy decisions as Wigan ,Bury etc will be seen as formality more so called complex ones will be dealt with little consequences the charade of an appeal by the EFL etc .
    The real deal will have been done it’s just the timing , they’d just no need for and independant body to apply the rules , it’s a well paid scapegoat .
     
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    Done a quick bit of digging

    https://www.sportresolutions.co.uk/

    this would seem to be them and it is made up of partners in reputable law firms, barristers from decent chambers

    I can’t see if being a well paid scapegoat personally
     
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    I hope the relegation issue is sorted out quickly, if we survive, there’ll be a fair few multi million pound transfers to sort out before next season if I’m any judge.
     
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    The EFL is made up of 3 divisions of 72 clubs , however with 20 % of the season still to play they allow 2 divisions consisting of 48 clubs to stop playing with all promotion & relegation issues to be decided , that was simply barmy , all 3 divisions should either have been suspended until they could all resume or all 3 divisions playing out their fixtures when allowed to restart , what they did was to create different rules for two thirds of the membership to adhere to , thus causing a chaos , all member clubs should have been playing to the EFL rules , you cannot change until the season is over . By doing this , the EFL management have lost all credibility & anyone expecting them to throw the rule book at clubs in breach of the rules, then I think they are in cuckoo land , its not going to happen , they do not know what they are doing.
     
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    I agree.

    Did anyone see this piece https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53341269 a couple of weeks ago? This bit in particular illustrates the organisation is not fit for purpose:
    Roan (Questionner) : Was the EFL lax in the application of the rules?
    Parry (EFL Chairman) : "No - he passed the test, albeit it self-certifications and he provided the assurances."

    So no independent verification then Mr Parry? Fit and proper persons test my arse!

    It's just another example of their inadequate stewardship of the Football League. Their failure to hold clubs to account for breaking FFP rules is another.
    It's time for an independent body to oversee and manage football in this country.
     
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    Of all the articles I've read, this one is the clearest so far as to what the implications of yesterday's statement were.

    The independent commissions doing the cases are the fundamental cause of the delays and problems, and the timing is out of the EFL's hands as a result, but surely it was the EFL who, at some point in the past, decided that the cases would go down this route. From what I can recall, they've subsequently appealed pretty much every verdict that has come out from them directly too.
     
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    IMHO the distinction lies not in the complexity of the cases but in the size of the clubs involved. The EFL is quite happy to flex its muscles at clubs lower down the food chain who are unlikely to have the wherewithal to fight back. When it comes to the bigger clubs it's a different story.

    Never forget that once upon a time Swindon were actually demoted from the Premier League for financial impropriety, and Luton were effectively thrown out of the League altogether by virtue of an unassailably large points deduction. Again look at the clubs involved and try to imagine that happening to more powerful clubs.
     
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    Can’t remember if it was Dane or Conway who said it, but it was a solid point -

    In MLS, each club is part of the system. So if one club cheats, all other clubs in the League are technically affected/cheated. So the power lies with the innocent clubs and the punishment is swift and well supported by the other clubs.

    Over here, especially in the Championship, there’s so many clubs actually in debt and struggling, none of them dare stand up and demand the EFL punish the accused club, as they are in fear the same might happen to them.

    This is where I’m fully behind Conway in his legal stance and it’s refreshing to see. We are one of the very few clubs who have nothing to hide and very little debts in comparison. So we’ve decided to make a stand and force the EFL to act. I’d suggest many clubs and fans lower down the pyramid are also fully behind us too.
     
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    If what it looks like is going to happen happens then Conway has got to grow a pair and do what he has threatened and take the Efl to account
     

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