Dan Jarvis is holding a drinks reception at DMC, 4pm

It’s utterly crass be pleased that once again a red rosette has been pinned to the donkey (I’ve always been labour until last few months and I didn’t vote Boris or Brexit party), but surely even the most Red of Reds can see they got a kicking both nationally and locally ! And by the way I’m not surprised Penis town voted blue Wendy gets

 

Sorry it was intended to the 'Spanish Inquisition' . It's just you seemed to be making a number of political points combined with a somewhat strange excuse re not attending the knees up!. i.e. changing smoke alarms is surely not just 'a once in a lifetime opportunity' (I am sure they could not do them all in one day as some must be out at work or shopping etc so they could have re-arranged a time). Anyway no big deal. Hope all is fixed OK and your accommodation is now a bit safer.
On a serious note I hope you have no 'cladding' issue there.

 

Your argument appeared to be, when I pointed out that I was witness to a labour mayor making sesh puking about £40k of tax payers money into the gardens of the town hall; “well a Tory Govt would have done the same”

Like that makes it ok? Reasonable?

Now You don’t understand me being flabbergasted by your response?

 

Dan Jarvis is on the BBC News website saying that he is seriously thinking
of registering his interest in becoming the next leader of the Labour Party and he
will mull over his chances of winning over the Christmas break.

Labour leadership: Dan Jarvis considers joining race https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-50906730

 

Thing is, you have someone like Corbyn that's not like that, that doesn't take the piss with expenses and he's deemed to be unelectable and a crap leader.

 

Corbyn twice failed to win an election after ten years of Tory austerity and he is a crap leader. He could have utilised those on his benches with ministerial experience to unite the party instead of conducting a witch-hunt against former Blairites. He could have maximised May's embarrassment when her government was found in contempt of Parliament and forced her to apologise or deny Parliament's vote (either way she loses). He could have refrained from virtually defending the Russians over Salisbury when the entire Western leadership was united in their verdict. He could have preserved links to EU workers' rights by agreeing May's deal and he would have kept a weak Tory leader in place to take on rather than seeing her be replaced with a more formidable Tory opponent. And he could have taken more decisive action over the anti-Semitism issue rather than appointing a loyalist to conduct an 'independent' review and then rewarding her with a peerage.

Helen, he has been a disaster. And the path to defeat in 2024 begins with appointing a Corbyn clone like RLB who will have little appeal beyond Labour's traditional base (assuming even that can be won back). I'm not a huge Major Dan fan but he has a clean-cut image, a record of service to his country and a clear desire to see more social justice. Okay, not a left-winger's ideal - but a more appealing prospect than what we face with another five years of Boris at the helm.

 

have to agree about the electing of a new leader, the whole front bench need to go, people like Rebecca long bailey, Emily thornberry and John mcdonnell will always be associated with corbyns disaterous campaign and are now toxic and unelectable, for me someone like Andy burnham could fit the bill...

 

Labour needs to either reinvent itself with strong messages and manifesto that appeals to modern socialists and modern society, new strong leadership that recognises the voting public's needs or die and open the door for a new alternative party. Right now labour has proved they dont have the right chemistry, leadership, and manifesto to appeal to enough of the population. Im not sure its a case of actual manifesto issues as much as whether that manifesto appeals to enough people and more importantly can they get their message across in a modern world where social media and press bias, digital manipulation etc can win an election. Labour turned up at a gunfight last two elections with a kitchen knife that still had butter on it. Whoever challenges the Torys need to be prepared to fight dirty.

 

Doesn’t matter who the leader is. Unless the daily mail et al approve we’ve no chance. 1 labour leader elected in the last 40 odd years, what made the difference?

a promise made by Blair he wouldn’t come after them. Simple really.

the stark choice labour face is backing more left leaning candidates which the majority of its membership prefer or moving to the centre which more of the masses prefer.

Plus the sh1tshow that is brexit won’t be able to be thrown at them next time, it won’t be all encompassing and we can actually look at what the tories haven’t achieved.

If anyone actually cares about policies that is because it was plain to see because of the press and social media policies didn’t matter at all this time around.