Chronicle "Front page" WTAF!

That's me done with the chronic (not that they'll notice only ever read it online)

 

Think it's about to get tougher

 

Lots of my old mates who worked down the pits are now loudly shouting for the brexit party on my social media feeds: none of them feel 'ashamed'. So something has gone disastrously wrong.
Perhaps finding out why some people have become disenfranchised is the better option. The only way labour can move forward is getting these lapsed supporters back.

 

Yet all the people who are outraged go and buy the mirror with their amazing daily front pages....

 

You’ll no doubt be joining another minority group then by continuing to buy it.

 

The Brexit vote being a great example.

 

I am educated on this matter labour shut pits as well as the conservatives it’s not my fault if people believe that it’s all down to mrs thatcher

 

then why are you openly and have done in the past showing a staggering lack of intelligence on the subject?

 

It’s in the history books that labour shut pits in 70s along with the conservatives in 80s and 90s unless you don’t believe them books

 

Why did they do that? What was different to the put closures in the 70’s compared to the 80’s?

 

So if you’re so well educated on the subject, you’ll accept that the Labour pit closure policy was to modernise the industry, protect it and the jobs it had, as well as the thousands of linked industries and all the local economies. To make sure it remained fit for purpose.

Whilst the Tory, thatcher led closure policy was to serve only to decimate and kill off the industry, ruin the economies of the mining areas and leave such areas cut adrift with no support and no work coming in to replace what had gone?

Labour closed more pits than the tories. It was the right thing to do.

Killing off the major employment industry for the majority of South Yorkshire, South Wales and elsewhere was not the right thing to do. It was a sacrifice of areas the tories didn’t give a **** about to benefit the areas it did. The mines were cleaner, safer, profitable and had plenty of reserves. But she decided that didn’t matter.

At some point when the gas and oil runs out (won’t be long), they’ll be looking for summat else. Coal will be likely be dug up to make gas or oil if not to burn it in its own form when cleaned.

And I’m not going back over the Brexit party. If you vote for them in Barnsley, good luck to you.

 

There isn't a government which hasn't had to shut pits when they are exhausted or would cost too much to make safe. It's how many and the reasons which were the issue.

 

Not much different to most papers these days, Mirror, Sun and Mail pretty blatantly come down on one side or another Independent and Guardian a bit more subtle but deffo a bit to the Left. Must say the concept of a paid for full front page with a blatant statement of support does raise it to another level. That said if you don't like it you dont have to read it and even if you read it you don't have to buy into the message.
If they put a full page ad on the front page for Barkers butchers and your were Vegan would that stop you from ever buying the Chronicle again? Just cause you dont like the message, don't shoot the messenger!

 

John a question for you who shut down Grimthorpe, Goldthorpe, Houghton Main, Dodworth, Barrow, Redbrook, Park Mill, Riddings Drift and Wolley Collierys to name but a few of the remaining pits in the Barnsley area. Was it Labour or was it the Torys.

 

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/a-barnsley-welcome-for-farage.285596/page-2#post-2386462

 

It's been done in a way in which people will perceive that it's the Chronicle's opinion rather than just an advert. An advert should be inside the newspaper, not on the front page. The Nationals recommend voting for a party by splashing it on the front page in exactly the same way.

 

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obviously modernising didn’t work because the pits were losing money hand over fist the were shut because it was cheaper to import the coal w rather than mine it

 

Pits were always shut down. Usually because the reserves were exhausted. Thatcher did it for ideological reasons. And the subsequent neglect of coal mining areas led to the disastrous Brexit vote. What a sodding mess.

 

It was cheaper because it was being imported from counties whose governments heavily subsidised its production.....ours refused to help....sound familiar ?

 

Never been a miner but my understanding was that the UK deep mine coal industry was, at the time of closures, the most efficient in the World and the coal was also the cheapest...except it wasn't because was undercut by other Governments hugely subsidising their own coal exports which is one of the (although not the main) reasons Thatcher closed it . We also led the way in clean burn technology (developed in Grimethorpe was it not??) which was sold - lock, stock and barrel to a company abroad.
I only went down a pit once (Darfield Main) at the invite of a Pit deputy friend and that was enough to convince me that no man nor beast should have to do that sort of work in those conditions and certainly not for the money they got. Thatcher did the right thing closing them down EXCEPT for the fact she threw everyone... miners, electricians, engineers, support industries businesses, suppliers and whole communities on the scrapheap for ideological reasons and without a second thought for the future of all those affected. As for "The enemy within......"!!! Words fail me!
Not just mining though, all heavy industry took the brunt of the move towards focusing solely on Financial services and banking.