Barnsley town centre

That isn't an incentive to visit though, that's a reason to avoid.

 

That's why people avoid the town and go Wakefield or Meadowhall. It's not a safe place for families on an evening.

Nothing finer than coming out the lemon tree on a night dodging the mob of Suspcious looking young gentlemen that are seemingly attracted to peel street bogs every or the off their face zombies that loiter between the bookies and Yorkshire bank.

Or the cinema, half the price more or less than Sheffield. Yet courthouse car park is full of boy racer types with a sickly smell in the air...

Or how about a Taco Bell and a walk into town for a couple of beers. Dodging smack heads piss heads and mobs of half cut warehouse staff who like pushing for a row round peel square.

You'll struggle to see a copper from outside Yorkshire bank up to town end roundabout on an evening.

 

They had donkey rides on Saturday .... Is that normal for a Saturday/

 

The planners are trying their level best to kill any kind of shopping in the town centre. Why concentrate on the market, who even shops in the shyt hole?
I'll tell you who, someone called Doris who's 87 years old and has always bought old Fred 2 slices of boiled ham every month for a treat.

 

What should the focus of the new town centre the be?

 

Drugs & prozzies...

 

I agree with that but I don't think that if they improved safety/security that it would be an incentive to go, it would simply remove an incentive to stay away.

Close the peel square toilets and get rid of the yobs who hang around and for families there still wouldn't be anything because everywhere round there are bars aimed at young adults. They aren't really family friendly at all so the incentive isn't there.

Really there needs to be an effort to concentrate the nightclubs and bars in one area because at the moment they have been allowed to spill out around that entire side of the town and it makes the area a no go for anyone else.

Around the town hall is really quite beautiful and a nice restaurant overlooking the fountains could be a real draw for people but it never would be because it is surrounded by bars and clubs and they bring with them drunks.
Taco bell as you say is a place people may want to eat but again the walk from there is surrounded by bars and clubs.
Restaurants on market street? Surrounded by clubs.
The restaurant that was due to open at Chicago rock? Bars and clubs surround it.

They need to drive all of those bars aimed at that clientele into one specific area and leave it at that. A huge problem with the town is that the planners have allowed clubs and bars to completely take over certain areas and it decimates trade in those areas and makes them no go areas.

But even if we do make it safer like that there is still the issue of what is the incentive to actually visit?

 

To be fair there is a definite demarcation between the shops and the pubs now though, Grogers has gone, there used to be a couple on Eldon Street which are now chippies, you've got to pass almost all the shops before you get to a pub now.

 

That's true but there are a couple of attempts at restaurants that are surrounded by bars and it seems a crying shame that the town hall is such a beautiful place but is surrounded by pissheads and nowt else.

 

Why close the toilets in Peel Square just because of some dodgy characters - move them on instead.

 

Aren't they a bit of a **** hole? No pun intended. They've always seemed quite unwelcoming and quite dangerous even before the area was inhabited by the drinks and drugged.

 

Then do them up - we've got similar toilets in a pub in Liverpool and they're a tourist attraction - just move the smack rats on

 

I see you in it every week.

 

There is that yeah.

 

Aye and I can't wait to get out.

Save the shopping brass for trips to Leeds or mudchester

 

Is that clothes shopping or food shopping?

 

you haven't been to barnsley exploring recently...

Peel street bogs have been shut for about a year due to a combination of cottaging, pissheads and smack heads using them.

The scroats just congregate around them. The smell must attract them.

The youngsters attracted to barnsleys dying nightlife are not the problem. They are not gathering in gangs asking for bus fare or mobbing up in peel square getting pissed out their tree or blocking pavements outside offies.

Disperse these gangs, actually crack down on drinking on the street after joe public has gone home from work and start pressurising the licenses who continually sell the ale to these mobs and you'll get somewhere.

Make it safer and then people start using the town.

Make it safer and it'll stop people thinking the town centres a **** hole and going to other towns.

More footfall attracts more businesses into the town.

 

Clothes.

**** all in barnsley.

 

Agreed. It needs to try to attract a lot more clothing stores to the town centre if it wants to attract more than just people looking to buy meat and veg from a market

 

Peel street bogs aren't closed .