Anyone else worried

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  1. Durkar Red

    Durkar Red Well-Known Member

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    I’m not worried but if Wigan get away with it I’ll be very angry
     
    Durkar Red, Jul 24, 2020
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    No, she's still tell me to **** off. I'd move onto Cameron Diaz.
     
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    Ah but that would cost an extra 250k
     
    kektyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    And every other club that have accepted the sanction in the past. Plus every club that goes into administration in the future. I’m not ruling it out, but it does seem unlikely unless there is something going on that we don’t know about.
     
    Old Gimmer, Jul 24, 2020
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    They've probably not lost as much as you think through Covid
    5 home games with season tickets already paid for.
    Only extra income would be POTD for 5 home games against Blackburn, Stoke, QPR, Hull & Fulham and whatever is spent on pies etc
    For the sake of argument call it 3,000 spending £30 on tickets/snap = £90,000 a match x 5 = £450,000
    All sundry staff for match days will have been furloughed so no wages to pay for them and no policing costs so subtract those costs and it probably amounts to Kieffer's wages for those weeks since we returned.:)
     
    Simon De Montforte, Jul 24, 2020
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    This is my understanding also... They're now happy ( new owners) to take the 12 point deduction if that's it. And start afresh next season in L1
    What the are fighting is kektyke, points about embargo and squard, hoping for a years grace like we had a couple of years ago.. But also a there's a further 15 point deduction lurking in the background for next season for non-payments of non-footballing debts..
     
    Sopwith Camel, Jul 24, 2020
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    Yep also seen the other deduction for non payment but slipped my mind
     
    kektyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    If the difference between the championship and league 1 is £10m and the cost of the appeal is £500k then I'd be surprised if they don't pursue it. It only needs to have prospects of success of around 5% for it to be worth it. They will have obtained an opinion on the prospects of success from the QC to inform the decision. From my experience, where there is even a very slight argument to be made on each side a barrister will not peg the chance of success/failure at less than 20%.
     
    mansfield_red, Jul 24, 2020
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    It's looking more likely that rather than wasting half a million on a QC they'd be better off using RelegationLawyers4U,
     
    Mr Badger, Jul 24, 2020
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    Just looked at the Latics forum, seem like a reasonable bunch and some are quite optimistic. The following comment is amusing........Yeah let’s stop up anyway ....we’ve been relegated before which was fair enough. because if you are in the bottom 3 at the end of 46 games you damn well deserve to go down (I’m looking at you here Barnsley, you bleating Yorkshire tarts) but not when you’ve finished half way with a single defeat in 15 matches and ten clean sheets in your previous 12/13
     
    WF3Red, Jul 24, 2020
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    He’s missed out the bit where they’re paying more for players wages than what’s actually coming in .
    If we’d have lived beyond our means and bribed players with unearned money maybe we could have finished mid table
    you cheating bleating Lancashire knob pots
     
    Marlon, Jul 24, 2020
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    Some people are thick as mince. Yeah you might have gone on a good run but you spent beyond your means to achieve that o_O
     
    TitusMagee, Jul 24, 2020
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    It will be a disgrace if the deduction is overturned, and if it does, I will be done with football.

    But...

    I don't think Wigan have defaulted on any payments, and their plan was probably to sell players like Lowe and Robinson. I don't think this is an administration bourne out of living beyond means. But, they have gone into administration, and that is automatic 12 points.
     
    leythtyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    They have been living beyond their means for years. Just look at the accounts something like spending 1.8m on wages for every 1m in revenue
     
    kektyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    But that is not what got them into administration. The owner just pulled the plug a few weeks after taking over. There's talk he tried to liquidate the club on his second day.
     
    leythtyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    But you said they weren't living beyond their means which they obviously were and at some point it was going to bite them on the arse and go into admin anyway
     
    kektyke, Jul 24, 2020
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    But apparently that’s why he pulled the plug , he didn’t realise the amount needed to prop it up .
    That’s the story I’m sticking to anyway and if that isn’t the reason then it damn well should be the cheating tw@s
     
    Marlon, Jul 24, 2020
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    He should have bought a better blender.
     
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    So your advice would be to throw half a million on a 20/1 shot?

    Once you've lost, you're half a million down. Which doesn't seem very smart.
     
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    I'm not saying that would be my advice, but it would be justifiable on the numbers.
     
    mansfield_red, Jul 24, 2020
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