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  1. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

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    Because he's a hypocritical exceptionalist fascist lovely person?
     
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    But we have sat back while isreal flexed their muscles on Palestine haven't we? Now they get some retaliation and play the victim? Irrelevant what the Tories or any one else would do I'd still say keep out.
     
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  3. Gimson&theBarnsleys

    Gimson&theBarnsleys Well-Known Member

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    So Hamas didn't attack Israel then on October 7th?
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Israel has every right to defend itself, what it doesn't have a right to do is commit unspeakable war crimes and genocide which it has done. They've now gone after Iran who are retaliating but yet Israel is playing the victim You dare say anything and you get the anti semitic bull **** thrown back at you. Netanyahu and his cronies needs bullets in the head.
     
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  5. YT

    YT Well-Known Member

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    Iran has been ‘months’ away from having nuclear weapons for as long as I’ve been breathing. In a similar way that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that meant Britain was ‘45 minutes from doom’, according to Tony Blair’s media machine at the time. Just yesterday, the media didn’t push back on false claims that Iran had weapons that could reach the UK.

    Basically, I’ve seen this before.

    I just stick to the facts that are out there for us mere mortals. And Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Israel is not. Alongside India, Pakistan and North Korea. Since it’s not a party to the NPT, it avoids the legal scrutiny that Iran, for instance, faces. The genocidal state operates with completely unique freedom, due not to the absence of international law, but to the lack of enforcement, Western protection, and a global power structure that prioritises strategic alliances over accountability. Money before morals. Warfare over welfare.

    Netanyahu is a war criminal. As are the leaders of all nations supporting the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people.

    But so was Blair, who then went on to make millions offering political consulting and strategic advice to governments and corporations — including authoritarian regimes. Clients reportedly including banks, oil companies, and governments across the Middle East and Central Asia, profiting from relationships with repressive regimes, while promoting ‘democracy’ elsewhere.

    A horrible ķùnt of a bloke. As they all are. Pretending to be in service of the working people while taking the country into Middle Eastern nations, murdering Muslims in the name of peace. Which ensures the wars continue for decades, incites terrorism, makes more money for the wealthy and - less importantly but more keenly felt - sees us mere mortals paying more at the pump and at the supermarket tills.

    This isn’t a Labour dig though. If that divvy Badenoch was PM, or, as we are likely to see in a few years, Farage, they’d too be in support of ‘our friends’ in Israel. It’s a big old club, you see. It’s why the previous Labour leader was never going to be allowed to succeed.

    Vote Green.
     
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    Israel murders thousands of palestinians every year since long before october 2023. Why pretend that was the start and justifies anything Israel does?
     
  7. wak

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    Yes, those poor Iranian leaders, always following the rules.........


    https://www.euronews.com/2025/06/12...an-in-non-compliance-with-nuclear-obligations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
     
  8. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    No idea. Not bothered anymore. Might as well vote Reform
     
  9. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

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    Only if you're not bothered about having a semblance of free healthcare or any sort of workers' rights.
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    more Harold Shipman than Harold Wilson.
     
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    YT Well-Known Member

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    Not once did I refer to Iranian leaders, nor offer them or the nation support/defence. However, I’m fully aware of them failing to comply with their JCPOA obligations. They did so, following the US’s withdrawal from the agreement and Trump reimposing sanctions on the country, crippling its economy.

    I don’t believe in nuclear weapons. But if the UK can have them, if Israel can have them (without signing the NPT) why shouldn’t any other nation have their own?
     
  12. wak

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    My bad, your dislike for Iran and alarm that they could build a nuke must have been hidden amongst your wide condemnation of the entire western world. I'm not sure if you're serious about why everyone shouldn't get nukes, I mean, does it need explaining?
     
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    Been going on abit longer than that. Surely you already know that. Israel have just attacked a country this time with a actual army that will defend its self. Like I said we should stay well clear of it all.
     
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    Israel and Netenyahu were getting so much political and media pressure about their war crimes and ethnic cleansing in Gaza they did the 'look over there!' trick and bombed Iran to 'remove' Gaza from the headlines for a while.
    It's grossly crude, but effective.

    Although if you read enough you'll find they are still shooting them dead and starving them.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    The 'mad mullahs' aren't as mad as Netenyahu. Israel won't even admit to having them and is perhaps closer right now to using nukes on Iran or other places than it's ever been. Yet curiously that's not a headline.

    Sure Iran is miles from being squeaky clean but at present they don't have nuclear missiles. That said it's easy looking at Netenyahu and a far right nationalist government to see why they might try.
     
  16. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    The Israelites were there before the Palestinians; though they themselves were preceded by the Canaanonites.
     
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    No they weren’t.

    Israel chose that name because it made stupid people associate them with the bible.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Also a little odd that Israel has managed to carry out targeted strikes on multiple high ranking Hezbollah, Hamas and Iranian officials from hundreds if not thousands of miles away, but they apparently had no idea about Hamas's plans. Just no clue. And still nobody knows how all the warnings they were given were ignored. Complete mystery it is. :p
     
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    Did you know that the Butcher of Gaza, Netanyahu, has been saying Iran is months away from developing a new nuclear warhead every year since 1992, it's all on record, and that only 4 countries have never signed up to allow people to enter their country to asses their nuclear caperbilaties they are India, Pakistane, South Sudan, and Israel every other country as including Iran. That is why Israel has been estimated to have 70 to 400, no one really knows.
     
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    The ordinary people of Iran are praying Israel win, believe you me.
     

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