713 positive cases today out of 169,276 tests. 816 reported last Monday. As you can see deaths have been negligible for all of July and August. Remember around 1600 people die on average each day in the UK. Patients in hospital continuing to decline. The percentage testing positive (0.42%) is LOWER than the false positive rate (estimated at 0.6% to as high as 1.4% depending on the study). So it's statistically possible every case is a false positive. This is now a charade. Why the hell are hospitals not offering a full range of services???
You are interpreting the figures wrongly. There aren't 713 positive cases from THOSE 169,276 tests. They are two separate statistics with different time frames. Most of the results from these 169,276 tests won't be back yet. What about the false negatives?
I think the government managed to get most of the cases shipped back into care homes causing thousands of unnecessary deaths to those most at risk months ago. I certainly won't be patting them on the back after the highest deaths in europe which a lot could of been avoided.
Hospitals should never have stopped offering full services except where they were so overloaded or short staffed that staff had to be redeployed.
Covid is real, and I hate it when some idiots try to pretend it isn't. It's a huge danger and we do right to be very cautious of it and take as many precautions as we can. However, I agree. My grandmother has a potentially cancerous lump in her neck which she was scheduled to have biopsied in March. It's now August and it still hasn't been done. It's grown since then and is causing her pain, and if it is cancerous these delays might have signed her death certificate. She's a lively woman with a lot to live for; she's a great grandma who still dances, drives and gets to all corners of the country every year. She might be almost 80 but she doesn't feel it, and she deserves to live life to the fullest for as long as she can. It's one thing controlling the virus to save lives, but if we're sacrificing other people to do that then what's the point? I still feel a lot of this could have been avoided with earlier action on the government's part though. I fully blame them for it.
That's absolutely shocking mate. Is there no way she can have the biopsy done privately? It wouldn't be cheap and in principle I'm against such things. But, under the circumstances.....
Don't think hospitals ever got to that point though. Staffing levels may have been the bigger issue, I don't know. Admissions for everything fell off a cliff. Even emergency admissions were down. Really worrying stats when you look into them.
I know, that's my point. There's no reason hospital treatment should have been stopped. It's not a result of lockdown and it shouldn't be accepted as necessary. It's criminal that it's been allowed to happen.
When you say it's not a result of lockdown I understand what you mean, as in it didn't have to be a result. Its disgusting that large parts of the NHS shut down while for example the manufacturing of Crisps and sweets continued.
Not only that it didn’t have to be a result, I don’t believe they’re related (other than people not wanting to go to A&E etc. which is also a problem) It’s a completely separate policy, which has been lumped in with the lockdown because they both came in at the same time. It’s like if they brought in UBI at the same time as legalising weed (as an example) - you couldn’t say weed being legalised is a result of UBI.
This says all that needs to be said..... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...ored-panic-times-killed-people-Covid-did.html
Those figures nicely ignore anyone that died over 28 days after contracting the virus. That is roughly 10-12% of all those that died after contracting the disease. There is still no indication of how many have long-COVID either in the UK but indications from elsewhere show quite a few have long-term effects, sometimes life altering (incidences of strokes among relatively young (40s) COVID victims are double the average rate). Current infection rates on a 7-day rolling average are around double the infection rates at the easing of lockdown (July), implying that the long-term underlying R in the UK is around 1.1-1.2. This would likely see around 2000 cases per day in September and 4000 in October - probably more with further relaxation or the return to schools. It is looking increasingly likely that the choice in October will be schools or pubs - and evidence from around the world shows that kids aged 11+ are just as likely to contract and spread COVID as adults. The rate of infection in England is 11x the rate in France and look what we've just done with those on holiday there. Fortunately deaths are well-down. Whether that is better treatment, weaker virus or other factors is a matter for the experts.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...orkshire-hospitals-go-longest-period-18782841 4 days without a death in a Yorkshire hospital with Covid 19. Another wonderful positive.
There have been so many changes to the counting methodology in all the datasets, it's impossible to compare things over time now. The timeline of a Covid-19 death involving intensive care can easily take a case over 28 days.
Which is why the "gold standard" is excess deaths. It doesn't then matter if it was COVID directly, COVID indirectly, or a result of the measures taken to combat COVID and is less susceptible to government spin. In the UKs case, that figures is around 65000 this year.
Good news then I think it's around 8 weeks in a row we have been below the 5 year average so that's a good sign.
