The northern Ireland brexit thing

Is there a reason it's only one way? ie goods leaving the UK rather than goods coming in?

 

Yep. Tells you all you want to know about our standards v EU ones. Tories favour less regulation and consumer protection in order to allow for more commercial exploitation.

 

The main reason is that there has been no effective inspection of any goods coming into the mainland UK from NI, even if they originated in the ROI (EU member). The EU are reluctant to allow goods coming from the mainland UK into the ROI without inspection and, until the agreement today, all goods had to be inspected, even if they were actually staying in NI, as there was no way of knowing whether they would actually end up in the ROI. All part of Johnson’s ‘oven-ready deal’ that wasn’t. Hopefully things will now improve somewhat, although the DUP and ERG might decide otherwise.

 

The UK is not checking anything that comes in from Europe by whatever route, except for odd random spot checks. Recently such a check found tons of food which was unfit for human consumption. Remember what Rees Smug said? It would cost too much to check imports from Europe, we would be effectively putting sanctions on ourselves. Or words to that effect, the result is we're not checking. Brexit is a smugglers' charter.

 

Hang on! In one breath Orsenkaht is saying UK food standards will be lower than EU because of Brexit and now you are saying tons of food from Europe was found to be unfit for human consumption. Make you minds up!

 

They're both saying the same thing

 

The unfit for consumption stuff isn’t what people in the EU are eating, it’s what unscrupulous people thought they could get away with selling to us.

 

Put yourself in a European producer's shoes "Damn it, this food is off, we can't sell it in Europe they have food standards, oh hang on, they're not checking imports to the UK, we'll send it there!".

 

I think you should just think about what you’ve said, then think about it again, and if you still don’t get it then there’s zero hope, so you should then realise that you have been conned by the brexit cult.

 

Fortunately he doesn't defend brexit all the time though so he can't have been. Well that's what he thinks

 

Nobody was conned.. because the object was clear. Thee only thing that was voted for was not to be ruled by a European super state and Ursula Von Der Leyen. All this, you believed this and believed that is just a lefty myth that they tell to reassure themselves..

 

I'd love to hear the EU reaction to the admission by Sunak that NI is in the best position in the world. that of being in both the European Union and the UK. Which for anybody who doesn't know, is exactly the position we all were in before the Brexit vote!

 

It was being smuggled in so not subject to food standards legislation and was picked up on a random spot check thing is how much got through because it wasn't checked. Brexit is all about lowering standards to increase corporate profit and to stop the EU stopping Tory members, supporters and doners being able to hide money in tax havens. It's got **** all to do with helping the public and everything to do with making rich people richer.

 

So instead we continue to be ruled by a half German half Greek billionaire and have elected a government filled with rich liars and incompetent fools whose only interest is making themselves richer, meanwhile supermarket shelves are empty fuel prices and inflation are through the roof and public services are being trashed . But aye it's great not being ruled by a European Super State not that we were ever ruled by them in the first place, it's just rich people with vested interests told us we were and enough fools believed them.

 

There could be a new thread on here 'current successes of brexit'. It would be the shortest thread in bbs history

 

Not quite, as I understand it NI are in a unique position that they can trade with the EU virtually as before, but they can export to third countries through the UK without being subject to Customs Union regulation. Whether it turns out to be a great advantage remains to be seen but it is a unique position.

 

In short the unionists want total alignment with the rest of the UK. In other words, the "3%" of laws that rishi refers to is that the EU do still have some laws in place over NI. It's suggested that these are only in place to avoid the hard border.

On the other hand, if that's true and rishi is being totally upfront, they do have access to the EU when the rest of the UK doesn't.

Again if that's all true, I'm not sure why the DUP would reject it.

But again, it's all down to how the agreement stacks up when looked at in detail.

It does (and I'm far from anything Tory) on the face of it, seem as though NI have won a jackpot. And the SNP jumped right in it complaining that Scotland don't thave the same access.

I think. Anyway

 

I'm far from a Tory, but gotta say hats off to Rishi and the EU on this one. It's a cracking deal for NI. Sunak went to the talks with a positive, non-provocative attitude and has shown what can be achieved by working together.

Johnson's deal was a shitshow from start to finish, this proves the EU aren't the baddies and are happy to work proactively with the UK if we can show a semblance of decent leadership.