Press v Chelsea, sorry if posted already

superb

 

Very impressive .
I think that is the clubs strategy rather than any one manager imo .
Stendal tried it but just hadn’t had the time with the team to adjust and things behind the scenes went haywire .
Struber adopted it and it was used to good effect after lockdown break then behind the scenes went haywire .
Val came I with the same strategy but more intense and the players were getting used to from Stendal first implementation and it being widely used in the U23s etc .
Hopefully Val stays a little while but he is ambitious so hope we appease him but if he doesn’t I think we may lose a little momentum but without the normal upheaval of a new manager/ coach coming in with different staff and strategies.

 

We're like red wasps buzzing sound a can of lemonade!

 

That's just the fans

 

Shrink that pitch. They don’t like it up em..!!

 

Nonsense. Wasps are harmless if you just let them go about their business. The Reds, on the other hand, can seriously undermine your premier league credibility.

 

This was brilliant to watch; I’ve got 2 contentious takeaways from it.

1 @Red Rain thats what the ‘triggers’ are.
2, I’m not sure the hairy ars ed Keiffer Moore is a good fit for that press, which would have left us with a weakness in the heart of our team strategy. Nothing against him, I miss him as a striker, but how many goals would he get having to run for 90 minutes.

 

When the coach says something like, "the players need to understand the triggers", he mean that the players must understand what initiates or precipitates that course of action (the press). The recording illustrates very well the part of the press that is our players closing down the space available to the ball carrier, but it does not illustrate what triggered the press, that is what action or course of events was the trigger for the front 3 to begin pressing in unison, and for the midfield players and defenders to press forward to compress the space available to the team in possession in their own half. The clip shows only the players close to the ball, but the press involves the whole team, and that part of the press is not shown by the clip. That is what is meant when someone uses that expression. It is not my expression. It is an expression in common usage in the game.

 

it’s possible that:
You’re being purposely ignorant?
You genuinely only see the player nearest the ball moving?

Every time the Chelsea player passes, you see the whole team react (of course only the ones covered by the camera angle) but there were some very good wide shots that show the coordination of the entire team.

The BBC pundits even put graphics on screen and described it in detail.

 

Your post said, "Red Rain, that's what the triggers are". I was explaining that the triggers are the what initiates the process that is covered by the film. What is happening is a response to the trigger. It is not an actual trigger. I believe that you were referring to something that I wrote last week, in which I said I was still not sure what the triggers are. I meant that I am still not sure what initiates the process partially covered by the shots of the Chelsea game, and I am still not sure what they are. If you understand the process, perhaps you would like to describe the process to me, with illustrations to allow me to understand how the whole team reacts as one to a particular event.

 

Jesus.

 

Big Val shouts a number!!

 

I think it’s also fair to say that the Calibre of manager has greatly improved each time.

We’ve built-up each time. Big Val’s playing career speaks for itself. That commands a massive amount of respect in the dressing room too.

We wouldn’t have got Val or maybe Struber had we been in L1.

 

To save me some effort
BBC iPlayer, last Thursday, Barnsley v Chelsea. At half time you can see expert analysis with drawings and everyfink

 

I'm sorry, but the Chelsea game is no longer available on MotD (iPlayer). I missed it live because my mate rang me on the land line for our usual half-time chat, and the hand set is in a different room to the TV. What did they say - a summary will do.

 

Odd that.
Comes straight up on my phone.
And my Virgin box
And my smart TV
And my laptop

 

OK, I give in.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000s59d/the-fa-cup-202021-fifth-round-barnsley-v-chelsea

 

Thanks for that. I looked for it on the BBC web site, but all I could find was the last MOTD highlights. I have now looked at what @Donny-Red was talking about, but the analysis was only about how the front 3 pass on the responsibility for making the challenge on the next man who receives the ball. The triggers that I am talking about are different. Those triggers are the ones that decide what shape the team plays. They always play 3-4-3, but sometimes they play a high press with all that means for the position of the midfield line and the defensive line. Sometimes the press only involves 1 or 2 of the front 3, with the ones not pressing playing slightly deeper. That too affects the placing of the midfield players and defensive line. Sometimes there is no press because the opposition plays the long ball in response to our long ball. What I do not understand is the way that those triggers work.

Once again, thank-you for taking the time.

 

In all seriousness, given your interest in the subject, I'm surprised you haven't e-mailed the club and asked for an explanation. Were it not for Covid, you'd probably get an invite to watch a training session or sit in on a tactics meeting or suchlike.