So Poya apparently favours a passing game and a high press.Fair enough, our squad are good at playing the press. But are we all agreed that we're not suited to a possession- based game? There's clubs with much bigger budgets trying to do that. We'll never finish ahead of the big boys if we play them at their own game. We're continuing to rip up what took us to the playoffs, presumably because of what Khaled said about the resale value being lower when we played direct. But we actually did well when we played direct. The new manager will get my full support, and I really hope he turns it around. But it's depressing to see that the club isn't trying to win games and finish high in the table. What's the point?
We'll have to wait a few games to see how the guy develops things. Can't assume too much now. I'm sure even this shower of shi.te will want to win some games and stay up
There's plenty of time if he hits the ground running. 10 wins 9 draws and 10 defeats will give us 50 points.
I'm all just a bit too jaded by everything at the mo. can't really be ar$ed analysing his footballing philosophy. I'll wait and see how we look out there on the pitch. I just want to see some basics done well. play people in their best positions. get clear instructions to the players. get shots on target. under schopp we seemed to have a complete absence of all those things. I'll reserve judgment.
Why do people keep pushing this ridiculous narrative. The higher the club finish the higher everyones value is. So the goal is obviously to win games, there would be huge losses if we got relegated and we'd be forced to sell star players for low amounts. I understand people were miffed by Khaled's comment. But of course it is a goal to sell high and buy low, that's the only way a smaller club can progress organically. That should be blindingly obvious to us all. The first goal will always be to win football games, from this all other benefits flow, to suggest this isn't the number one priority could not be more incorrect.
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I don't think there'll be many coaches, that follow Ismael's style of very intensive high press off the ball, whilst also being willing to give possession back so easily in order to get up the pitch. So, if they're not out there, then you're not going to find them. The high press was always the constant, with playing styles on the ball differing from Stendel, Struber and Ismael. At least they appear to have gone back to that, after appointing somebody that didn't play a high press at all. Let's see what he means with 'possession based', just attempting to find your own player is possession based in comparison with Ismael. As long as it's not slow and laboured like under Schopp. If the club weren't trying to win games, they would've just made an internal appointment or appointed a free agent.
I think it's depressing to think that fans are thinking that we're nor trying to win games. Imagine the team talk if we were ever 2 0 up at half time.... "Boys; it's not good enough. We must lose games. Stick to the plan. Move heaven and earth to concede at least 3. Concede more if you can. Remember the negative goal difference were striving for." In answer to your question, the point is that we/the club want to win games
The boards cheer leaders will tell you it's better to watch a losing side that's only objective is to sell players for profit than have no club to watch. My argument is if it carries on being run as it is now they'll be nobody watching anyway in a few years and eventually no club to watch. The board just don't understand that however unlikely it is fans need to have hope that someday success will come and a club will win something if that hope is squashed old fans will drift away and new ones won't be attracted add in things like the West Stand decision and you have a toxic mix.
Unless I've been living in a parallel universe for the last 17 games. I'd say they've been guilty of going through the motions. Did you not see Helik's pathetic chasing down against Forest or Brittain and Styles lack of effort tracking back for most of the season thus far?
On reflaction, my last sentence was poorly worded. I don't think that the club doesn't want to win games. They obviously do. BUT I do think that winning games without increasing the value of the players isn't any use to the board. And they believe (probably wrongly IMO) that last season's style was bad for the value of our players - bad enough to do more damage than the value added by the team doing well. To see us make another appointment away from the style that is most likely to win us games is what's depressing. Winning is not the number one criteria any more.
The more I see about this guy and his assistant the more optimistic I get that he could be really good. I love the fact he seems very analytical and tries to spend time working on things meticulously on the training ground. However, the only concern I have is with this passing/possession based style that he apparently favours. For me a great coach is someone that can see the limitations and strengths of the group he has and come up with a style/philosophy that works for them and get players in that add to this further. We are in a league with some really good sides that are much better than us due to the money they have. We got into the playoffs last season as we opted for a more direct style and looked to outrun our opponents using our young squad and making the most of the 5 sub rule. If we try and out play everyone in the league we will take some heavy defeats IMO as this league has a lot of teams with a lot of money and some top talent. I hope he opts for a mixture of possession play but not afraid to go long if and when we need to etc. or change the style depending on who we are against. I am staying optimistic though as I am liking a lot of what I am seeing when it comes to this new coach and his staff.
Looking at his record I’m expecting a much more cautious approach actually, I don’t see us getting caught upfield constantly with the entire Defense on the half way line. Going to mean a wake up call for the midfield who will need to do more (some?!?) work for a change. I really like Benson on the ball but off the ball he needs to buck his ideas up.