Proof that the old saying that decisons even out over the season is wrong Yesterday another in a long list. Blatant penalty for us not given (again) soft penalty given to the opposition. I have seen several on here arguing that their penalty was a correct decision. I can see their point but don’t agree. There was a clumsy coming together after the ball had gone. No one appealed for a penalty not their players or crowd its the sort of challenge that may get a free kick awarded outside the box but never ever given inside. How often does a defender or keeper make contact with an attacker after they have crossed or shot it happens all the time and until yesterday I don’t think I can ever remember a penalty being given. Something isn’t right with us and penalties but I have no idea what. We are almost never awarded them even for blatant offences such as yesterday’s handball block countless trips players being wrestled to the floor etc. And I can’t remember us being incorrectly awarded one for a foul outside the box, yet there are plenty of examples I can think of where penalties given against us were incorrect 2 against Leeds in recent seasons spring to mind or really soft Yesterdays being by no means the worst example. For sure there are examples when we may have got away with ones that could have been given but we aren’t facing a level playing field. I think in general the problem is more we don’t get awarded them rather than every decision in our own box is against us Why is this? how do Charlton get a Penalty every 3 games when we are lucky to get 2 in a season. I can’t believe it’s a deliberate directive to refs but the bias is too systematic and has gone on for too long for there not to be a cause but we have had it under several different managers and styles of play and it’s becoming annoying.
I don't subscribe to the 'all the refs are biased agin us' conspiracy theory. They're not. Some may be incompetent and/or make what some would claim are dubious decisions but biased? Nope.
This site gives historical data on the number of penalties awarded. https://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats I think the figures are from when each of the leagues took their current name, although I stand corrected if that assumption is wrong. We must have spent more time than Charlton in leagues which have since undergone a name change. You can't expect things to even themselves out over a season, the sample size is much too small. The longer the period over which values are measured, the more the statistics converge. Charlton Premier League Games 304 Penalties: 29 A Penalty every 10.5 games Championship Games 278 Penalties 23 A penalty every 12.1 games League 1 Games 276 Penalties 41 A penalty every 6.7 games Total Games 858 Penalties 93 A penalty every 9.23 games Barnsley Premier League Games 38 Penalties 4 A penalty every 9.5 games Championship Games 416 Penalties 44 A penalty every 9.5 games League 1 Games 138 Penalties 16 A penalty every 8.6 games Total Games 592 Penalties 64 A penalty every 9.25 games
@Jay can you please stop battling everyone with your science, mathematics and statistics. We all know that every referee is biased against Barnsley and that’s the end of the argument.
I never claimed the referees were inherently biased and your statistics are no use to me in this case. I am taking about recent seasons. I don’t remember this being a problem whenI first used to watch us but in recent years I can’t think of one penalty that was incorrectly awarded for a foul outside the box to us or even one which I thought we were fortunate to get like the one Charlton got yesterday. Even their fans were surprised it was given. My gripe isn’t that we are always unfairly penalised and there are plenty of times refs could have given penalties against us and haven’t, and sometimes they will makes mistakes that favour us and sometimes not. It’s at the other end we over the last few seasons we are almost never given them and we have had many clear cut ones turned down. I thought yesterday’s handball was a much more definite penalty than the one we conceded Had the ref given both I would probably have muttered about him giving them one to even out but have accepted it with good grace.
League 1 and The Championship began in the 2004/5 season. All our stats, other than that one season in the Premier League, are for the most recent 15 seasons.
I posted in another thread that i've watched the full game back and i've got to say the referee got both penalty incidents right in my view. Diaby took the player and not the ball. Penalty. Wilks shot was very close range from the defender, the front on angle shows the defender turn away (so he can't see the ball), it hits his body, then ricochets on his arm, which doesn't go to ball. As for penalties generally awarded to us, in recent years, I don't think we've attacked the box that much and driven at defenders. Most of the penalties we concede are trips as people attack our centre halves who are often not given much cover. At the other end, we shoot well before we get into the box, or we have crosses from well out wide, again outside the box. Maybe Wilks and Thomas will run at players more, rather than shift and strike it. It's no great surprise in our promotion season to the prem we got a load of penalties compared to the 2-3 we'd normally get in a season. We had Bullock and Marcelle running at pace into the box. Redfearn driving into the box. Hendrie and Wilkinson using their experience too. Even under Little Lee and PH, many of our goals were assists from set pieces or shots from distance.
