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  1. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    The Conservative Party leader ignored it and broke the rules because it was stupid, ********, and he knew it didnt work.

    The Labour Party leader ignored it and broke the rules because it was stupid, ********, and he knew it didnt work.

    Get it yet?
     
  2. Skryptic

    Skryptic Well-Known Member

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    You are very stupid.
     
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    Well the Chief Scientist and the Chief Medical Officer seemed to feel that it was a good idea. The Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition agreed that it was the right way forward.* I can see that there could be some debate about the unintended consequences of the lockdown(s), some of which may themselves have resulted inadvertently in loss of life. But I think on balance that there is an inescapable logic that engineering a reduction in social contact must have had some effect on how quickly and how prevalently the virus spread. And in all the circumstances I am persuaded that it must have saved many thousands of lives. But perhaps you should give evidence to the forthcoming public inquiry?

    *You impute a motive to people for breaking the rules. Johnson has a well-chronicled history of being cavalier with rules. The incident involving Starmer was investigated by the Durham Police and no offences were disclosed, which is no surprise given that he is both a QC and a former Director of Public Prosecutions.
     
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    Re-read that second part and try again.

    This is the reason the Tories will stay in for a long time because of the ******** narrative that "well every party is the same".
     
  5. TitusMagee

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    **** me, give it a rest will you? Sometimes you just have to accept other people have a different viewpoint. Move on, people have lost loved ones on here through this.
     
  6. ley

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    Yet, he made the rules. And broke them time and time again, with 10 Downing Street becoming the most frequently fined residence

    Did he? Or are you falling for the nonsense whatabouttery being peddled by the Tories and the Daily Mail
     
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    Stupidity at its grandest, no mention of the many voices ( home and abroad) that said had the lockdown been implemented earlier, it wouldn’t have lasted as long.
     
  8. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    Presumably there are lots of examples where this strategy played out successfully which you can cite?
     
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    I really think you need to talk to someone professional about this. It’s clearly affected you strongly, which is obviously understandable as it was such a huge thing. Unless there is something else which you’re not telling us (and fair enough, you don’t have to), it seems to be an unhealthy obsession. I’m not saying you should at any point change your mind, you’ll always have this opinion (and those disagreeing with you will always have their opinion), but to be posting it in the way you do constantly seems really unhealthy. I’m not saying that just because I happen to disagree with you as I’d think and say the exact same thing to anyone who hijacked threads/started new ones at the rate you do with a directly opposing view. There’s others on here who agree with you completely but they don’t post it over and over again unprovoked at all times of day and night.
     
  10. Tarntyke

    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    No there isn’t, and that’s why those who didn’t lock down earlier pleaded/ begged on us to do so, Italy was one
     
  11. Redstone

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    The shutting of the schools was unforgivable. The damage caused by the lockdowns is still having a impact on my family today.
     
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    Not true.
     
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    Is there a selfservative amongst us? Jesus wept.
     
  14. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to answer your post constructively and assume that you are genuinely concerned for my welfare - so firstly thank you.

    Yes, I am still extremely angry about it, and it's clear from your post that some people are finding that an irritant, so I commit that I will post about it less. However, I don't want to stop feeling angry, and I will try to explain why.

    The implication in your post is that the healthy thing to do is to put it in the past and move on. Well - with respect - that's very easy for you and I to do, in our middle class professional roles that were uninterrupted, in your case on full pay.

    Sadly, for many families the lasting harms are still being counted and will continue to be for many years. There are a couple of people on this board that I know of who have been terribly affected personally. So I would prefer to harness the anger that I feel to do something constructive on behalf of those voices that not only remain unheard, but were actively shushed/sidelined/marginalised for two years, and to campaign against the clear right wing legislative overreach that has been a hallmark of this Conservative government.

    You are correct that drunk shitposting on here won't help them, and I'm happy to commit to cutting that out, but I reserve the right to stay mad and channel that into continuing to support charitable causes for the forgotten minorities who were so harmed by lockdowns and doing free work for an organisation opposed to proposed reforms to the Human Rights Act.
     
  15. TitusMagee

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    When I said move on, I didn't mean or expect you to forget about it I just meant move on from constantly dredging it up on here to provoke a response from people some of whom have lost close family members, especially on unrelated threads when people are not going to be expecting it. I still think lockdowns were necessary (to prolong whilst waiting for vaccines) and you will not change my opinion of that, it doesnt make me a supporter of it though as i never wanted be locked down in the first place. There needs to be a mutual respect of opinions- im not going to try and change your mind either.

    I'm glad to hear you are doing positive things with this though. And I echo what Jamdrop said about speaking to someone professionally about this.
     
  16. Redarmy87

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    Good for you. Too many are comfortable in their own little bubbles and do nothing. While the powers that be continue to wreak havoc behind the scenes.
     
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    At the end of the day, everyone is mostly doing what they think is right for wider society. Nobody wants to see people suffer or die. If someone was for lockdowns they were trying to protect lives, someone against trying to protect livelihoods and wellbeing.... it is hardly worth falling out over when it boils down to it. Just difference of opinion.
     
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    Thank you for taking it in the way it was intended.

    Just one minor comment about the full pay though which is neither here nor there but I think that by me 'liking' your post it could be taken as me agreeing with everything within it. Yes, I, personally was still on full pay (if you can call £1200 for full time work 'full pay' due to forced unpaid periods during the school hols - but that's a different matter!) but my husband, whose income is the one we most rely on, was reduced by £600 a month as on-call work stopped completely (he makes travel websites, there wasn't much call for those during lockdown surprisingly) and has never restarted. Therefore, he's actually basically on permanent furlough pay despite working full time throughout (he doesn't have to be 'on-call' every other week now but as he'd only ever been called twice, it's not like his workload has been reduced any) and will be for the forseeable.
     

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