just can't understand this VAR anymore

wba player on his goal line, ball smacked him 90mph and his elbow stopped it, VAR check and no penalty,
now in old school football using proper officials it was ok, impossible to avoid, but i thought any handball accidental or not was now a foul?
time to ditch it

 

Apparently accidental hand ball by a defender is not a foul .
Accidental handball in the area by an attacker is penalised if it leads to an attempt at. or indeed a goal.

 

anyone care to update after the 2 penalties given for accidental handball today? i'm still puzzled

 

It's a grim old set of rules.

 

It's to do with the position of the arm as well as if it was deliberate or not. If the arm is away from the body and it hits, it'll be given. If it's tucked in to the body it shouldn't be given.

It's not that difficult to figure out, but it is hard to fully agree with every decision. The Wolves one, he's no chance of getting out of the way, the Liverpool one has travelled a long way.

 

Being accidental isn’t the key anymore.

 

but hooky said tuther day accidental was only called now if attacking not defending?
var is fecked!

 

Hope this helps make it clearer.


Handballs
Any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed this season even if it is accidental.

The handball rule now has extra clarity because it does not consider intent by a player.

Another big change is to do with the position of a player's hand/arm.

If the ball hits a player who has made their body "unnaturally bigger" then a foul will be awarded.

IFAB says that having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a "natural" position and a player is "taking a risk" by having the hand/arm in that position, including when sliding.

It is, however, considered natural for a player to put their arm between their body and the ground for support when falling, so long as the arm is not extended to make the body bigger.

 

I think you've just (understandably) misunderstood the rules.

If you're the attacker and you score after the ball touches your hand the goal is rules out regardless of intent, position or anything else really.

If you're the defender then essentially the old deliberate or accidental rule still exists however it's been slightly tweaked.
If it's judged to be deliberate then it's handball no matter where your hand is. If it would still look accidental but your hand is in an unnatural position (eg above your head when jumping or out away from your body when stood) then it's handball because you have made your body bigger than it should be using your hands.

The rules are quite clear and make a lot of sense. As usual it's the refs interpretation that is at fault. If a player is spinning around his arms will naturally rise a little. Common sense says it's not handball but the ref will often rule it's unnatural and give it