It's just dawned on me!

I'm probably way behind everyone else on this one but I've just realised why we don't do loan signings. They cost us money in contributions to their wages but we don't get anything back by way off a transfer fee so in their eyes it's a loss!

 

Mark Robin left BFC because he was told we had to stop being reliant on loanees.
The previous season we spent 3m on loan players with no return when they all went back to there clubs.I think the economics of the club are more important than frittering money we could or can' afford.Before anybody jumps on me a couple of decent loans should not be ruled out in the future.

 

generally its a sensible plan i agree with, why pay to improve other teams players. we saw last season by giving ben williams a go at peterborough how we could use our own players instead. however i do feel if used correctly and sporadically we could benefit with the odd loan signing to improve the teams and further develop our own players, that cost isnt quantifiable with a pile of cash. .

 

A loan like McBurnie almost saved us the minimum 6 million quid cost of relegation and would have done had we got it over the line in August so things aren’t clear cut

 

Aye takes away a potential profit from that position in the team.

 

We've signed a large swathe of very young, very inexperienced players who between them, had nigh on nil experience at this level of football, and to compound that decisions, we then refused to buy or loan in any form of Championship experience to help them bed in.

It felt like a mistake at the time. It looks a lot worse than that now, and will only look better once he hit the bottom of the curve when they start to show signs of improvement.

 

I would always use 1 per season, 2 at an absolute maximum on a player whose quality we couldn’t otherwise afford.

 

Like I said a couple of loan signings wouldn't go amiss.

Reliant Robin.

 

Without Fletcher Brownhill and Isgrove we wouldn't have been promoted 4 seasons ago. Without the likes of Morsey, James, Gardner, Kent Barnes etc we may well have been relegated sooner. When you're a yoyo club like us, loanees can make all the difference.

 

Personally, I agree with the policy. There's no doubt the likes of Fletcher, Long, Brownhill, Morsy, McBurnie, Barnes & James (for example) made a big contribution as loan players. But, for balance, players such as Joe Dudgeon, Callum Connolly, Michael Smith, Marcello Trotta, Kadeen Harris, Joe Rothwell Dan Crowley, Conor Wilkinson, Gethin Jones, Callum Elder & Deon Burton certainly didn't.
When the club was utilising the loan market, the persistent demand from many was that they wanted the policy abandoning in favour of presenting our own young players with their opportunity. At the end of each season, some fans were quick to complain that we'd lost so many of the first team squad, as these players had returned to their parent club. Usually this happened within a day or two of the season finishing!
Now that the club is no longer considering the loan market, it suddenly becomes a useful addition.

 

A couple of decent loans like a Matty James for example could be the difference between survival and relegation and i think we’re daft to not use them.

 

The hope would be the experience of a 2 or 3 decent loans would bring on our own players, keep us in this league and next season we might be good enough with our own players to go back to having no loanees.

 

Whats never made sense to me is why we seem to go through such extremes. All kids, all English lower level players another season, another season so many loans we can't play them all, and not long before that, under Flitcroft some very experienced pretty old players.

I've always preferred blend of those components to make a team.

We've had some disastrous loans, we've had some amazing ones. If as has been muted, we cant afford the experience that would assist this team, then loaning is one of the few routes left.

We just need to add 1 or 2, not 7 or 8.

 

If we're going down the current avenue then no one barring Mowatt and Woodrow should be assured of a starting place. Give the lads in the under 23's some hope of a starting birth and it makes the first team squad that touch bigger. It might just make us more competitive in the short term. Picking players that are failing every week just pulls the mood down further.

 

I think that's a fair argument, old mate.

 

Understand the club not wanting to develop other clubs players but if our own players just aren’t up to championship level yet and we’re not going to break our wage structure then the loan system seems the only option left.

 

The way I look at the reported £6 million is it's just like selling a player. If we are in the championship a extra £6 million comes in but it doesn't seem anything extra goes out.
We have a budget somewhere between top of league one and bottom of the championship. The feeling I get is that we don't fear relegation financially as we aren't set up as to compete in the championship in terms of finances.
From one point its sensible, we could increase the outgoings and still go down. So go in with the league one budget try and stay up if we don't then we are ok next season.
The downside is from a fans perspective if we just sit in the bottom 3 all season.

 

Was just going to post the same, without fletcher,isgrove,brownhill and toney we wouldn't have won the jpt or achieved promotion that season. We couldnt have signed them permanent because we couldnt afford, but they all played big parts that season. I'm not saying get 4 or 5 loans each season but I think the OP is right we wont do loans because the club cant make any money on them.

 

Shortermism though.

The long game is to continually develop and sell young talent for profit.

You have a team of raw recruits and no grizzled Sarge them they wont at some point want to get into the trenches.

The right loans although they are to the club a loss leader would benefit them longer term in ensuring the younger player develop and learn which mean more wonga.

 

Think back then policy was more about how many can we get to save on transfers etc but after costings decided it didn’t balance out.
Should be loans to improve the team only.