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  1. Opp

    Oppent'gates Member

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    Just flicked on the British Open snooker and a guy called Davis was clearing the table with great skill. He was about 40 up when he just sat down. Unbeknown to anyone in the room, he had touched the white whilst lining up a shot and had called the foul himself. His opponent got off his chair and cleared up, winning the frame.
    In football, when do we see the ball go out of play and both sides not claim the throw. In cricket, feilders used to signal to the umpire wether the ball had gone for four or six. Are these days over for good or is winning the game the only objective, and cheating seen as a necessary evil.
     
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    wombwell-red Well-Known Member

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    We’ve just played a team that in my eyes deliberately set out to injure Dougall and in general just boot our players. If anything the complaint at the minute for us is that we are too sporting and “nice”.

    Also I’ve seen cheating and bad sportsmanship in several different sports over the years including snooker and cricket, no sport is completely clean.
     
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    You get good'uns and bad'uns in every sport... In life in general...
     
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    Just an aside.... there've been one or two instances of what appeared to be selfless sportsmanship over the years, that after the event have been shown to be nothing of the like. Hansie Cronje, seemingly trying to create a result on the final day of a test v England, declared a whole innings despite being well on top. England won. It later emerged Cronje was paid £5k for an England win by an Indian bookie.

    I think numerous things have changed in sport. The money involved. Betting markets. Societies need for instant success. The lack of time given to develop and improve. It's not surprising so many people cheat, or how a coach may encourage cheating. Sad. But that's the world we live in now.
     
  5. Austiniho

    Austiniho Well-Known Member

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    The Christiano Ronaldo effect is ruining the game. If you have to cheat to win.... you haven’t won.

    CR7 does not need to cheat but still does, hence I think he’s a twit!
     
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    I mean it was obviously his fault when Maradona scored with his hand against us right?

    I know Ronaldo dives and whatnot but to single him out seems bizarre.
     
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    Dragon Tyke Well-Known Member

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    didn't Robbie Fowler once try to turn down a penalty given in his favour against Arsenal. Also the freebie goal Arsenal gave to the blunts in an FA cup game come to mind too.
     
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    Yes he did. He protested with the referee advising him that he hadn't been fouled by Seaman and that he had simply lost his balance but the ref waved away his protest and the penalty stood. Fowler was so incensed and keen to ensure fair play was upheld that he promptly took and scored the penalty.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    Your Davis chappie might well have thought he'd get found out anyway, with all the cameras about these days.

    In football, since time immemorial there's been competing claims for throw ins. Now at least you do get a card for "simulation". I remember seeing a Barnsley forward in the 70's fist a goal in and grin all the way back to the restart (for some reason I think this was a chap called Bob Evans, but I may be wrong and apologize if I defame him). So cheating is nothing new. Anyway, it's the theatrical exaggeration of pain and suffering that riles me. And the failure of referees to punish bad behaviour of the dissent sort.

    Cricket - as a kid I used to be happy to be honest about nicks, catches etc. Till twice in a row I was given out caught behind leg side when it came off my pads. After that my well of generosity ran dry.

    To conclude, stop all dissent. Penalize em if they complain. And get the right decisions made - through camera involvement if needed.

    You'll only cheat if it gets you anywhere.
     
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    He didn’t, he missed it. Or rather seaman saved it.

    Jason Mcateer scored the rebound.
     
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    Grade 'A' chuff that one
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you're right it was scored from the rebound rather than directly but he did try to score it. Most players would probably do the same but it sort of made a mockery of his fair play protestations.
     
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    Sorry, didn’t realise it would be bizarre to single out probably this century’s most influential player for the fact that he’s a cheat. I don’t remember many kids idolising maradona to such an extent, at least not in the UK.

    Is it really so bizarre?
     
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    There wasn’t half as much social media/tv coverage of Maradona. Had he been playing these days then kids would’ve no doubt idolised him to a similar level.

    Maybe I misread what you put but I read it as in Ronaldo being to blame for the amount of cheating in today’s football. Which, to me anyway, seems a bit bizarre.
     
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    Austiniho Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely agree, social media has a much higher influence on today’s society and increases the publicity of each player.

    I wasn’t putting all the blame at Ronaldo’s door. Merely stating that he was a main culprit. I also can’t fathom why he spoils himself with the cheating. He has talent that shouldn’t need such underhand tactics. But comes across across as an Arrogant cheating ******.
     

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