Formula one is fixed pt 94

Racing incident for me. No way that should carry a 5 second penalty.

 

Joke of a decision but I expect no different.

Red Bull are dominant and don’t need the continued assistance but they get it anyway.

 

Stopped watching it totally after the Lewis Hamilton robbing a couple of years back.

 

He turned left into him. Accidental because he lost grip but still Lewis's fault.

Completely wrecked Perez's car causing him to retire so 5 seconds is lenient.

 

Seemed harsh at the time but apparently it did damage Perez car and pit him out. Hamilton tried to overtake in a very risky place and it didn't pay off.

 

Lenient? Completely disagree. Checo had lost all grip prior to the incident and was struggling to keep pace and even on line, he left nothing on the inside at all for Hamilton. They were pretty much fully alongside eachother and the space was outside Checo, and he didn’t (or couldn’t) move out. Hamilton ran out of room and had to come back in and yeah steered towards him. I’m not suggesting Hamilton didn’t have any involvement. But it is meant to be a race. Are you only allowed to overtake on a mile long straight with drs now? Is the top level of motorsport going completely risk averse?

It was fifty fifty at worst - and the problem for me is, as others have eluded to, had max done similar to piastri for example, or if it was reversed and it was Perez that went into Hamilton, I have a strong feeling there would have been no penalty at all. And that would have been right.

One thing for sure, if roles had been reversed you would have had Horner on the radio straight away crying ‘let them race’ and ‘racing incident’ - he’s the biggest hypocrite on the circuit. I’d have agreed with him though.

If that isn’t a racing incident, then it isn’t worth watching as they are essentially banning overtaking, not allowing wheel to wheel racing and ending competition - it would mean it isn’t a sport anymore. It’s getting like football got a few years ago where every incident in the box was either a penalty or a yellow card for diving. Nothing in between, no grey area. Eventually it changed a little and we get ‘play on’ again now (with a var check at some levels obviously).

F1 could learn the lesson here. Sometimes it is just ‘play on’. Not every incident needs to invoke a time penalty or a need to apportion blame.

 

https://imgur.io/a/UhfhW8M

The onboard for Lewis is clear who's at fault. For some reason sky TV didn't show anything other than the basic overhead shot

 

Yep that's very clear. Perez left Hamilton more than a cars width room. Completely unintentional but that doesn't help Perez.


@troff keep in mind when you are slating Horner all the team Principles are hypocrites. That's part of the job, to advocate for the team.

 

That video shows that Hamilton was still turning right when they made contact - he steered left after the contact and he’d dropped behind him. He clearly wasn’t solely to blame and this ‘majority to blame’ thing - why is there a need for it? There was neither intent to make contact nor was it a particularly wreckless or dangerous move.

I still see it as watering down the sport punishing stuff like that. Perez was clearly struggling and the opportunity presented itself.

We want a bit of action rather than single file processions. He didn’t exactly dive down a gap that wasn’t there. I don’t give a **** what colour the cars were or what numbers they had on them - I know it isn’t stock cars but there still has to be an edge to make races a race, too many weekends the only action is who qualified where and when do they pit to secure an under/over cut with long periods of nothing happening - and other weekends with straights and drs zones so big there isn’t any defending an overtake. The cars are so big now some circuits can’t take two of them side by side on parts of the track. Then there are proper race circuits like spa.

Where they can, let them bloody race eachother.

 

I stand by racing incident and no penalty required. On that video Hamilton is turning right at the point of contact, Perez is squeezing the space available to him. Hamilton only flicks left after the contract to control the car.

This is not the same as the incident at Silverstone where Hamilton tried to force his way past Verstappen and punted him out of the race.

I'm genuinely convinced that if this occurred the other way around then no action would have been taken.

 

It's bad enough how dominant Red Bull are but Perez has been awful for a long time now.

 

F1 is the most boring sport known to mankind IMHO - team with most cash wins

 

Like Football?

 

No or Luton wouldn't be in the a PL. F1 is boring though. Two dozen cars go around a track for a couple of hours and then the same guy wins every time. SPL is more competitive.

 

Snap #metoo

 

More accurately you find it boring. Lots of people enjoy it.
Lots of people find football boring.
Two dozen players try and cheat for 90 minutes and the better cheats win everytime.
You can break anything down like that if you want to apply child like logic to it.

 

You are right at the moment it does seem to be one person winning but I'm not watching 20 different cars just to have a very simple real of only caring about the one at the front that's not how sport works. If it did why would I or you for that matter ever go to work well we have zero chance of winning the league in England I'm very little chance a winning the lower division that we're in yet we both turn up week after week.

When I watch formula 1 I'm wanting to see can Fernando Alonso get on the podium, will Daniel Ricardo get a point, will the core that's trying to do a long stint on the hard tires to keep a one-stop race get a good result or will they start to tumble down the pecking order towards the end of the wrist as their tires fall off a cliff. I suppose if you're so blinkered and simple that you're only looking at the one carving front because that's all that matters to you then yes formula one is boring but so most sports. In the Olympics the favourite generally wins, Michael Phelps won everything in swimming so presumably it's boring and nobody should watch it, bolt won the 100 m every time he stepped foot on the track. But we all still watch it

 

20 cars, not 22....

 

Psst, two dozen is 24