Dillian Whyte

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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    Showed his power in abundance tonight, albeit Povetkin looked jaded he still posed immense danger and courage, Whyte surely now deserves a title shot, a think he takes Joshua much further than there first fight!!

    Whyte Wilder is a top fight
     
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    Enjoyed the fight tonight, but I think the Wilder who drew with Fury beats Whyte.
    If he's lost any motivation though, Whyte can pick him off with the jab if he stays patient.
     
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    Whyte doesn’t want a title shot. Will claim he does but always turns down final eliminators.

    My moneys on Pulev on box office now he thinks he’s old & finished.
     
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    I really hope Povetkin retires as well. He shouldn’t be anywhere near a ring. It’s 17 years since he won Olympic gold, that’s a long, tough career. Shots that would’ve bounced off him in his prime are making him do a dance these days.
     
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    You can’t disagree he’s fought sone dangerous opponents in recent fights
     
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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    Other than that last round knockdown a can’t recall Wilder doing loads tbh
     
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    He fights the worst possible opponents that Sky will approve on box office.

    They’re still decent, top 10/15 fighters but it’s an absolute con what him, Hearn & Sky are telling the public about Whyte.

    He’s claiming he can’t get a title shot & that he’s avoided yet he turned down final eliminators with Ortiz & Pulev & a straight shot at Joshua’s belt but then again who can blame him? He gets to fight with home advantage against hand picked opposition on box office with British refs & judges.

    He earns well, Hearn earns well & Sky earn well. Casual boxing fans sit there lapping it up saying how hard done to he is & keep paying their £20.
     
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    Only cards headlined by a good quality world title fight should be on PPV. Now they have stopped each other it would be fair to have a decider. Paddy Power allowed £20 on a Whyte stoppage at 5/4 from 1/2 which will have cost them a fair whack. Whyte was never going to make the same mistake twice. A touch of class at the end to go get Povetkin a stool to sit on.
     
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    I think you're probably right.

    I don't rate him much, I don't think he'd have much more than a puncher's chance against a Wilder, Fury or Joshua. But he's watchable.

    I think we all just want 'the' fight now, don't we? Let's see who the best is. Two top quality fighters, both British, two different styles and personalities... it's one for the ages.
     
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    Total nonsense. He fought Rivas (dangerous fight) in a final eliminator and also accepted a fight with Dominic Breazeale which was going to be a final eliminator. He's gone through everything the WBC have thrown at him. The first Chisora fight was also some kind of WBC eliminator.
     
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    Are Ring Magazine a total con too? They had him 3rd in the world. This doesn't mean he's literally the 3rd best heavyweight contender but in terms of his record that's how good it is. Eddie Hearn cons include womens boxing and things like Campbell Hatton, like why is a debut on PPV? But to call Whyte main events "cons" when he was knocked out by Povetkin, almost knocked out by Joseph Parker, dropped by Rivas.. Yeah total cons and not at all dangerous.
    YOU are the casual boxing fan.
     
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    Anyways what a night of upsets all starting with Tishchenko in Russia!! Mchunu, McKinson, Webb and Lennox Clarke all with big upsets.
     
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    I don’t understand what you’re angry about. I’ve never once said the fights are bad, the opposition is bad or that the opponents aren’t dangerous. I’m saying it’s a con that they pretend he’s avoided & hard done to when he’s getting to headline on PPV cards despite been in non-title fights whilst turning down final eliminators & a title shot.
     
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    Not nonsense at all. Facts.

    The WBC put forward the Ortiz fight as a final eliminator for a shot at Wilder. Ortiz accepted it, Whyte declined it & rematched Chisora instead so Ortiz got the shot.

    The IBF put forward the Pulev fight. Pulev accepted it & his team won the purse bid. Whyte decided to fight Rivas instead so Pulev got the shot.

    Neither the Rivas or Chisora fights were final eliminators as both were well down the rankings.
     
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    And as you said higher up he flat out refused a shot Joshua, who then went to the US to fight Miller, ended up with Ruiz.........
    Obviously they can continue to play the hard done to card now with Joshua/Fury on the horizon.
     
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    Anybody that thinks wilder is anywhere near a top ten fighter needs to stop watching boxing he has absolutely no boxing skill doesn’t throw any jabs just plants his feet and hopes to land a hayemaker that’s it ortiz troubled him twice who is slow and pedestrian but would have taken him out if he had the stamina.

    whyte would sit on wilders chest and beat him up on the inside wilder wouldn’t have a clue what to do.. also on paper whyte has a better CV than fury
     
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    His skill levels aren’t of a top 10 level fighter but he is a top 10 heavyweight. He’s been behind in lots of fights & found a way to win through his power. It’s not luck when you do it so often.

    No ones been able to sit on Wilder’s chest & beat him up because they’re all wary of the power. If Dillian still walks on to a straight right hand from a taller fighter like he did against Helenius & Joshua then Wilder will take him out early.

    For me, his best bet is to keep working on that jab & try & outbox Wilder from a distance & take advantage when he gets reckless. Ortiz & Spilka both built big leads up by doing this but you’ve got to be close to perfect for 12 rounds.
     
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    you mean the Wilder that lost most rounds and found a one off punch in the last round before getting a lucky draw. ?
     
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    Knocked him down twice so was at least a "two" off punch.
     
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    Django is right that he’s sometimes chased the bigger payday and turned down opportunities for eliminators, but turning down the AJ fight was AFTER Miller failed all the drug tests. I think he did the right think turning down that opportunity as he wouldn’t have been in shape. Any fight for the world title when you’re in line needs to be on your terms. Different if you’re jumping the queue though.

    Whyte is a top five heavyweight right now. I think he troubles Wilder the most, Fury the least, and gives AJ a few problems. But likely loses all three of them but makes them interesting. He’s always there to be hit and likes to chicken dance in fights, which Wilder would completely jump on.
     
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