Angela rayner

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

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    Exactly my point. If you're going to call out corruption/dodgy dealing then call it out. If Farage is a corrupt, tax evader call it out and itemise the list of wrongdoings. If Rayner is a corrupt tax evader call it out and itemise everything. Farage and others need calling out regardless of rosette. If they're bent then they're bent.
    Incidentally, as an offshoot this is one reason I slag off Starmer - for some reason some on here will not criticise him for lying but are happy to slag off Johnson. They're also happy to criticise the Tories for freebies but won't criticise Starmer and other Labour mps for taking backhanders.
    Double standards all the time.
     
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    What's your point there mate? What is the relevance? What is the thrust of your argument. Why did you say that? Does that matter in any way?
     
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    So do I.
    But less houses, less stress, a more fortunate family situation, and a smaller bank balance no doubt.
    So what?
     
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    He tried to mock me with my grammar. So that was my reply.
     
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    I mean you can search by google images and find other sources for the same incidents.



    this wasn’t fake, for example, she got fired.
     
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    I said at the time of the 'clap for the nhs' stuff are people clapping for all nhs staff or just the white ones and got some stick. I was right, sadly.
     
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    Whilst I'm sure that redrum, being one of the intolerant posters being either on the left or right of the sensible middle, did not mean by his post to raise anything of note other than to pathetically attempt to score a political post, he has for me somehow done so.

    We have a system which enables unsuitable, inexperienced, unqualified and often either dangerous or egocentric individuals straight into the top slots in governmental charge over all of us. Even if not in government, look at Nigel, that bloke in charge of the Greens, Corbyn, Davey on a waterslide, Badenoch hopeless at PMQs etc.

    MPs should have to have training before they can even get into parliament. And then some sort of training before taking high office.

    Starmer's just done a reshuffle. In what other industry do you suddenly shove one person from one department of expertise to another? Aren't you supposed to have specialist knowledge about what you're doing when you do it, or at least use the knowledge you've eventually acquired, before you're lassoed off somewhere else? No. Makes no wonder we're always in a mess.

    In my own judgment I reckon the world has learnt enough by now to know that there is a moderate compassionate and mutually beneficial way to economically run the world without 5 year have a go terms for different gangs of unqualified chancers to get voted in and ruin it time after time.

    And it's about to get worse because the sensible middle will have even less of a choice.
     
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    And quite rightly. Noone said there aren't bad and disingenuous people protesting Israel. And every one of them wants locking up.

    But of many MILLIONS of people protesting the illegal war, this handful of clips spread over several years is all they have managed to find, yet they offer no context other than vilifying pro Gaza supporters. How many examples of far right groups do you reckon there are in the same time? Eg there were at least 10 times as many at that single rally in Rome last January.

    That video also includes footage of Bob Vylan (who deserved to be investigated for the death to the IDF chant) dancing on stage at Glastonbury with one hand raised directly up in the air, quite obviously not in a nazi salute... only weird pro Zionist social media accounts have tried to pass this off.
     
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    Reminds me of the starmer and lammy publicly slagging trump off years ago. Then he gets elected up his arse tweeting congratulations and can't wait to work with you etc.
     
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    For a man who wants to reduce immigration that Farage bloke sure does tend to like shagging them a lot doesn't he.

    First an Irish immigrant, then a German immigrant, now his French Immigrant mistress has taken a British persons home from them.
     
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    Contrary to what he spouts in general politics, he's all for equality when it comes to shagging.
     
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    I think it's just the brown ones he doesn't like
     
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    So spivy Nigel puts the Clacton house he said HE was buying during the run up to the election in his wife's name deliberately to avoid paying more stamp duty (he apparently owns several properties already in the UK and some abroad) and that's ok. But somebody who it would seem made a genuine mistake due to not understanding complex trust rules regarding a property put in trust for her severely disabled son to protect his future is wrong and is a horrible tax evader and her and her family must be hounded but Farage is allowed to just ignore any questions about his tax affairs something very wrong with the media in our country getting more and more like the USA everyday.
     
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    Just a question. So she puts the house in Manchester in her sons name in a trust untill he is a certain age then buys a house in Hove 5 hours drive away from her servearly disabled son. Why move so far away from him if that's the case?
     
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    It’s a bit different isn’t it? And I say this with absolutely no love for either of those you’ve mentioned. But they became elected. Into government. And Trump somehow ended up back in the WH. They have no choice but to crack on, and to try and get on with the Donald.

    Farage hammering Nadine and three years later bringing her into Tories 2.0, sorry, I mean Reform Ltd is a bit different.

    A reminder - I’m not a Labour voter. I think the party has been taken over by those right of centre, as I predicted when Keir became leader. It surprises me they aren’t your cup of tea to be honest.

    Where are your political leanings? Who do you vote for?
     
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    The thing I'm confused about with Angela Rayner isn't the tax she has or hasn't paid. That sounds extremely complicated.

    It's that was legally obligated to create a trust fund for her son because of his disability. The trust fund being paid for by the NHS. ie us. But she then used her son's trust money to give herself a couple of hundred grand to buy out her share of the house.
    For what reason? What medical need did her son have to buy out her share of the house?

    Seems to me like they were forced to put the money into a trust fund to stop her and her (ex) husband from spending the money on themselves and she has used that money to give herself nearly 200k

    For me that's a much bigger moral issue than the 40k tax issue.
     
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    Also why has she bought a house so far away from the one she's given her severely disabled son?
     
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    so you're completely ignoring Farages conduct and focusing on why Rayner bought a house in Hove instead of Manchester I assume she did it because it's an easier commute into London than Manchester by the way. Like I said Nigel gets to be a deliberate tax evader without any scrutiny. Rayner gets hounded because of a mistake his act was deliberate hers a mistake and to rob salt in the wound the amount he dodged was greater than hers
     
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