Angela rayner

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  1. winged avenger

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    Yes [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]k against multi millions dished out by the tories with contracts to their mates for useless ppe to name but one fiddle,but carry on while you’re on a high and make the best of it while you can
     
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    Ministers are there to carry out policy, not write it :(
     
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    I'd probably start with the ones that the cps has stated is illegal hate speech
     
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    Do you mean his immigrant partner?
     
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    "She also self referred herself to the ethics committee and HMRC upon realising there might be a problem"

    No she didn't, the Sunday papers broke the story on the 24th August, the Tories reported her to Sir Lawrie Magnus on the 29th of August.
    AR reported herself to Magnus and HMRC on the morning of the 3rd of September. She really ought to have got in first.

    https://bbc.com/news/articles/cx2jl43400jo
     
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    Farage gets paid into a company to avoid paying income tax. Johnson had his holidays paid for and his apartment decorated, because it was too John Lewis by billionaire mates, didn’t pay tax on benefit in kind. I’m annoyed at Rayner for making herself an easy target, but it’s one rule for the right and another for the left. Targeted because she’s a northerner.
     
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    I suspect the issue is that everyone including the papers in question have thrown s**t at her day in day out since day one. If she genuinely didn't realise she'd done something wrong then it's no surprise the vultures got in there first. The same ones who were silent when Zahawi was appointed in a role responsible for UK taxes while under investigation for tax evasion, and despite the ethics committee raising concerns about his appointment.
     
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    I don't disagree, and as I said previously on this thread , I doubt there was any intent to defraud. Tax in such situations can be difficult to understand, and this seems a very tricky case. She didn't take the necessary legal advice she was told to...why?....she probably, and foolishly thought it was OK. With hindsight she should just have referred herself the day after the story broke.
     
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    Yep hard to disagree. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, mind.

    Shame to lose someone who worked so damned hard to get from nothing to deputy PM over a daft mistake. I've never been her biggest fan but I do respect her.
     
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    I think she needed to have a court order lifted first to be able to disclose details of her situation.
     
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    I mean if you want some examples of fascists association with a flag ……

     
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    This take is comedy gold, lefty media deflecting?

    My ******* god
     
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    I doubt that being correct, other than public discussion of course.. although she did claim it....but certainly HMRC and possibly the Standards Cttee could have discussed the case without a problem.
     
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    Missing paying 5% stamp duty on £800,000 and it ending your political opponent's career, compared to - billing the taxpayer for cleaning your moat and the media making jokes about it, getting away with not paying any Stamp Duty cos you wear blue and bailing out your banker friends and making the working class pay for it for a decade - would be a minor, strategic victory I'd say.
     
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    Hardly missed it has she. She could of over paid of course, hmrc refund the money and then she wouldn't be in this mess. No sympathy.
     
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    I’m not anti-Israel. I’m anti-genocide.

    Free Palestine.
     
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    #417 troff, Sep 6, 2025 at 2:16 PM
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    The left despise our country and history?

    You are barking mad. Does our history include the Second World War? Seems to feature highly in many arguments against migration - so let’s look at that particular part of our history.

    5.5 Muslims fought for allied forces in the conflict. Over 1.5million of them killed in action.

    Over 2 million men fought for Britain in the British Indian army - British India incorporating what is now Pakistan and Bangladesh at the time and so had many Muslim conscripts. Those fighting men were all volunteers.

    The British casualty number was of course horrendous - but totalled under half a million, and comparatively few non-military casualties - 60,000 civilians of which half were merchant seamen shipping key supplies and as such deemed valid targets in time of war.

    Nobody should die in wars - any death is too many - but many, many more casualties of the conflict which gave us the freedoms we retained in 1939-1945, many more sacrifices to keep out the axis forces, came from countries and ethnicities who are now being vilified and denied humane treatment.

    Many more of those seeking asylum are from countries ruined by past British control or actions of war in which we are implicit.

    The majority of small boat migrants and people claiming asylum in the U.K. in recent years have been:

    Pakistani, Bangladeshi - countries created post war after many of their citizens had given their lives in Britains name

    Iran, Afghanistan - countries torn apart by wars started by or significantly contributed to by the U.K.

    Eritrea - a country under British rule post war, since abandoned and guilty now of horrendous human rights violations under its dictatorship regime - crimes against its citizens including but not limited to brutally enforced conscription, torture, arbitrary arrest for no crime, public flogging for indecency.

    So yes, I consider myself left wing. A lot more bloody left wing than this government.

    But no, I don’t hate my country. I am very proud to be English, British, European.

    I do, however, hate a lot of the people who live in it - be they hypocrites who avoid work and tax as a vocation yet bleat about people rinsing ‘their’ country, or raging bigots who talk about the proud history of the country - but don’t actually know what that history is.

    What is now Great Britain has been formed and changed by migration continuously - for centuries.

    Not one person hanging on Farage’s or Yaxley-Lennon’s every word, or maybe rolling red emulsion onto mini roundabouts, or scrawling racist remarks on Chinese and Indian takeaways, would have had any issue in the people they are now tarring not only as drains on resources but as criminals and sex pests, standing in front of them taking bullets on their behalf in past conflicts.

    Not too many of them will have the first idea about what their ethnic history is or the countries their bloodlines originated from.

    Yet will gladly state that a Muslim born and brought up in Rotherham or Bradford isn’t British as if they had been born in a barn they wouldn’t be a horse.

    If people have fought for the freedoms I benefit from, if my country has ravaged their country, or if they are suffering inhumane treatments (in part contributed to by our abandoning of them), then I want to give thanks or remediate the issues caused by offering safety, shelter, and a place to bring up a family legally.

    That doesn’t mean I want them crossing the channel in a rubber deathtrap and put up in a hotel for months and fed three square meals a day. What I want is for them to have safe, legal and easy to access passage into the country, fast, efficient and fair processing of applications to stay, and the immediate issue of visas and NI numbers so they can integrate into society, work, pay for themselves and pay into the system with taxes, visa fees and NHS access surcharges. You can have an issue with the current migration problems without having problems with the migrants themselves, and without incorrectly thinking we shouldn’t take any asylum seekers. We need positive migration numbers as we have a labour shortage and a surplus of pensioners who need to (and deserve to) be paid for.

    Given the hatred in the recent past of the right wing cruelty imparted on the working class communities in areas like ours from the Thatcher governments for example. I find it absolutely incredible that the term ‘lefty’ is bandied around as an insult as though socialism is extremism.

    It’s also an indication of the general lack of understanding of what the political wing system means and who sits where, that many cry out at ‘lefties’ and use it as an insult yet cry louder if you suggest they are right wing!

    Tommy Robinson, a man who doesn’t exist, is apparently not far right, just right so far.

    If that thundercunt is right then I’m happy to stay wrong.
     
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    Not sure haven't given it much thought. Other European countries are doing this now though. Australia also sends any migrants to off shore islands for processing.
    He's also said he's cutting the Welfare bill and get young people off pip. Something labour tried and back tracked.
     
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    Why no right wing evangelical Christian posts?
     
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    You should probably read up on that source. To say they have a few controversies in their past relating to spreading deliberately misleading videos and stories including deep fakes and baiting people.

    They are actually a Zionist propaganda group who fully endorse the genocide of the entire Palestinian population.
     

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