Is anyone else worried about the finances?

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  1. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    I've never worried about the club finances in 60 years so I'm not going to start now.
    I've seen some dire times when finances have been a problem like being bottom of league 4 with crowds nowhere near enough to cover costs and then the miners strike and ultimately administration.
    I 100% back our current owner and board to steer us through any storm that may occur.
    They've shown some great metal through the summer and the end of yesterdays window.
    For that I'm sure most supporters will back them just leaving one or two who constantly try to undermine them.
     
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    Don’t know if it’s been pointed out but attendances also go up in the championship. North Stand is usually at least half full and often sold out with the bigger clubs.
     
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    Championship clubs lose more money than league one clubs. Going up is not a silver bullet unfortunately. Remember there is a salary cap in league one that doesn’t exist in the championship many clubs paying over 100% of revenue on wages.

    it’s probably what’s driving our cost cutting tbh season as I think it’s 60% for established league one sides and 75% for newly relegated ones.
     
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    It shows that they can't run a club property, any business like shops, and companies. If you're loosing money, you would want to know why and put a stop to it.
    IMO every child under 10 gets in free. They would buy more food and drink.
     
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    Football isnt like any business though. Nearly every football club in the country is losing money and propped up by rich benefactors. The alternative is living within our means and having a lower league one or even league two budget. The AVERAGE pre tax loss in league one according to Deloitte in the 2023-24 season was £5.2m.

    We’ve tried free kids places before by the way but things given away for free have no value and a large number of tickets werent used or were barely used (which then blocks the seats for those games where demand is higher). I doubt they make a massive difference on concourse sales either.
     
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    I'm sure they're well aware of why the losses exist, but sorting it and staying competitive is not an easy fix. If we let u10s in for free, why would they buy more food and drink? And how much extra revenue do you think that would create? We'd lose the ticket revenue and hope to make it up on some food and drink sales? It might even end up in a further loss, certainly wouldn't change our financial position positively though.
     
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    Even if concourse sales are higher the profit margin is way lower. Charge £10 for a child's ticket and the profit is pretty much £10. Let that child in for free and even if they do buy £10 worth of stuff, the club have had to buy that stuff to sell. Even with the high prices Barnsley FC charge they'll be lucky to be clearing more than a few quid.

    We lose money as we have to offer players a wage comparable with our rivals. If we don't do that we'll only attract weaker players and we'll be relegated.
     
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    And average losses are three times that in the Championship. Promotion brings higher revenue and higher costs. There is no easy answer to ending the non-sustainability of football clubs.
     
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    I have said it before Wednesday aren't the first or the last, what's the saying about cutting your cloth.
     
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    One way they can offer a very good value to the customer and club is for very inexpensive children's season tickets.

    As it was only £10 to add a kids season ticket to mine in the East Stand I did that for a few years even though my son wasn't bothered and virtually never came. Then he came to the odd game a few years ago and then something clicked, he's been ever present the last two seasons and even though he's now 16 I'll still pay for the increased cost of a ticket and the increased cost of food and drink for a teenage boy because he now knows more about the players, the rest of League One teams and he is hooked for life (even though he was born in Manchester and was brought up as a City fan by his mother but he says "they don't need my support, Barnsley does").

    You need to offer good incentives to build the fanbase of tomorrow and it works.
     
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    We all would like to see us promoted to championship. How ever one down side is end up with more categories for certain games plus much more expense if also do away games. Couple prime example Coventry charging bitmknghsm 45 quid then when Southampton played Ipswich away tickets were 41 quid niw if we were to do do like for like certainly wouldn't get many paying them.prices on the day
     
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    At least Barnsley will be in the lowest category for all games :)
     
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    I think every club at our level is more less the same
     
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    They said in the Summer we would have to sell players, and I think we were all expecting at least one of our marquee players to leave. That hasn't happened. Whichever way people want to cut it, retaining these players represents continued investment in the Club. Seems like they've collectively said 'ok, one more season'. Seems mad to me, that there are still people criticising the owners for not backing the Club.

    I do genuinely worry about where we might be this time next year though, if we don't get promoted.
     
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