This Liverpool parade

Sorry. He'd stopped his car, there were police around and then he deliberately drives into more people. What isn't clear cut about that?

 

I am wondering if he got a smack round the head and lost consciousness just before he floored it at the end

 

It was all so reminiscent of what the after match is like at Oakwell. Cars going up and down Oakwell Lane while pedestrians spill out on to the road because the pavements can't cope with crowds. The same is true on Belgrave Road and this seems to have got worse since restrictions came in to force in the car park behind the Ponte.

 

Thought same mate

 

Me too

 

I was thinking about that. I’ve seen cars try to get past at Oakwell and people shouting and hitting the car and it can quickly turn into mob like behaviour. On one hand, I always think the drivers are stupid to drive through crowds of people but on the other (absolutely not talking about the driver in Liverpool where he had reversed, knocking into someone and the crowds were huge and not trying to travel in one direction), people should at least try to walk on the pavement and if a car is trying to slowly go past they could either let it or just keep walking and ignore it. Instead, people start shouting and kicking/punching like a car being on the road is the one in the wrong place, even if it’s not the best timing.

Husband and I have accidentally ended up in crowds around Headingley stadium twice when driving home and we’ve had to inch carefully along. The road will be clear and then big groups of people will just decide to step off the clear pavement to walk on the road two inches from the car and surround you and then you’re stuck, giving time for more people to arrive and then you’re in a massive crowd before you know it with more and more people walking on the road at a snail’s pace rather than the empty pavement next to them.

 

I think he's either taken a wrong turn into the massive crowds of people or he's parked there hours before and returned to a big crowd surrounding his car so he has to navigate that.

Tried getting out of the crowd, the crowds reacted angrily and his heads gone and he's massively overreacted and lashed out repeatedly with a deadly weapon (his vehicle) and hopefully he'll be spending several years in prison for it.

It's a big mess up by the organisers of the parade to allow cars to travel down that road. I think the only people not to blame are the crowd of people who were just there watching their team celebrate winning the league.

 

Roads are not just for cars. I can't believe anybody is excusing a car going into people in this thread.

 

Who’s done that?

 

Well, there seems to be a fair bit of justification going on. If something is in my way as a driver I slow right down or stop. I don't see how the police are to blame, or the crowd.

 

Looking at the map and the road closures, Water Street is one way leading onto the Strand - which was closed until at least 8pm. So cars weren't really allowed to drive there at that time.

 

Can’t see where anyone has done that.

 

Ok maybe not, just how it's coming across to me.

 

Somehow he was on Dale Street as that's where he was on the 1st clip i saw where he reversed and then went forward with people chasing after him - i believe that then becomes Water St so yeah questions to answer how he was allowed to do that (maybe followed ambulance).

 

He must have tried to turn back because clip of him ramming crowd looks like he's going up Water Street

 

If you’re talking about me. I’m not excusing his actions, but if you see the video where they’re kicking his windows in and then open his car door …. Just before he floors it. I think he was fearing for his life, but this doesn’t excuse him driving into a crowd of innocent people.

 

I'm sure that's what his defence will argue. As I said before Liverpool was heaving, not only due to the parade but music at Sefton Park, the Cunard celebrations. He was a local, he knew all this was happening. There were police around, he didn't have to deliberately drive at people in order to escape.
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I’ve just been sent footage of the incident. Not prepared to share on here but the whole incident is fkn mental. That driver was in total control of the vehicle. Knew what he was doing. Should be facing attempted murder charges.

 

The police didn’t step in until he had driven into the crowd. As I said, no excuse for ploughing into the crowd. I do wonder what you’d do if someone was smashing up your car, chucked a flare in it… then opened the door to try and assault you.

 

But what caused that in the first place? I'd ring 999. And if I was in the crowd and had seen what was happening I'd have done the same. You're making it seem like it was self defence in some way