Poll: What is your gender (serious answers only please)

I'm sure the fact that many people with penises and beards are now legally required to be in the women's toilets will help too. Surely no rapists have a beard or penis.

 

If you're talking about a penis that you were born with then no, that wouldn't be allowed. And no, if they are male on their original birth certificate, again they wouldn't be allowed. Yes, if you have a beard because you've taken a load of testosterone and you're biologically female.
It is not a difficult concept.

 

It makes it harder. There's a few times men have come into the women's I error, straight away it's whoops sorry. It's not the norm
Anyway, the toilet issue is just one very small part of the SC clarification. Importantly sports go back to being fairer and safer, women who on the whole aren't in prison for violent crimes don't have to worry about being housed with make sex offenders, women if they choose to have a female caring for them , no without doubt that it is a biological woman etc etc.

 

Still awaiting your response to your claim that you can tell these were born female @Redhelen

 

If this isn't some kind of twisted joke and you actually did that then you should be on a sex offenders register

 

Again, my question would be, why not just have toilets for all genders instead of seperating any then?

 

I assume for the same reason that women don’t want to share toilets with trans women, they also don’t want to share with men.
It’s really not my battle to fight, but I’d be interested to see the number of sexual assaults committed by trans women on women in toilets, as opposed to men on women anywhere else.

 

Even more reason the ruling is correct. Redhelen is getting piled on here by the usual suspects(clique). Your born a man use the male toilet, female use the ladies same with jails common sense. And protects women.

 

I don't object to that. Some places these days have just unisex individual toilets and shared sinks.

 

I ain’t getting into this daft thread but, I’ve always found Red Helen to come across as a very normal women and one who I can relate to with a lot of women I know who have the same values or whatever you call them, there is a big pile on here as said by some already, ffs those who are piling on give it a rest

 

For sure mate. It'll be years & years before we get any proper data. Like said many a times, it's a tough balancing act. Supertyke posted lots of pictures earlier of biological women looking like men. But it's a moot point because I could just go find bioglical men saying they're women who are 6foot5, long beard, penis and muscly as ****. I'm not questioning their intentions or who they feel they are - but I can also understand why a 5 foot nowt biological woman would be hesitant to share a bathroom.

As mentioned above also though, the real sad thing is it's constantly being hijacked by people who don't *really* care about womens rights or safety and they just want a dig at trans people.

 

The data is out there. Google it
Violent offences are on a par. And you know why that is, because they are biologically men.
Oh, and separate cubicles with shared sinks are the unsafest for women.

 

That's ignorance on my part then.

 

I am not ginger….sorry should have gone to Specsavers!!!

 

As a bloke I can see why you'd think that was a good solution. But there's issues of upskirting for starters.

 

Is upskirting at sinks a big problem?

 

I dont think its a good solution, Helen. I'm against it. My point was them saying youre tarnishing all trans women as predators, my retort to that is the reason women want their own spaces is because there's a chance something could happen - exactly the same reason we have gendered bathrooms already. Like I said, I'm no rapist, but I can fully understand and agree with why I shouldn't be allowed in.

 

Marginalising again, wonder if the same view would be taken if they had trans children?. Encouraging more hate crimes and the Tory ******** want them to use the disabled toilets. An insult to say it’s a disability and the truly disabled having to wait while someone touches up their lipppy. … slippery slope. First they came for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak out etc…..
0.5 of the population and it doesn’t apply to the majority so **** em. Nazi Germany revisited, sad times.

 

Googled it.
It would seem that trans people are more likely to be sexually assaulted than cis people.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10110792/

 

I tend to agree, Red Helen comes across as a reasonable person who I've had a few discussions with on here and they've nearly always ended amicably.

On this subject we are on different sides of the fence and we've both tried to convince the other to come on over but neither are budging, this is why I don't engage with anyone on this particular subject anymore.

Save your energy.