Fartage is not going to like this

Well that would contradict how many new houses the government apparently needs. Tried moving my child schools 5 or so years ago no chance.

 

That's the fact - schools are worried about school numbers rather than other way round

 

It's true, the birth rate is falling.

 

Politics is very important to me. As it should be to everyone. It affects us throughout our every day lives. NHS Waiting Lists, Potholes, Local Sports Centres, Planning Permission, Bins, Social Care, Pensions and yes, Immigration to name but a few.

So yes I do get wound up by it. I do think it's been amplified over the past 5 or 6 years though, but then people have never had it so bad.

I do concede that it is weird arguing with faceless names on the Internet though!

 

So the answer is let tens of thousands of unvetted migrants come here every month? And that costs the tax payer billions each year? No didn't think so.

 

No one said that- fact birth rate is falling

 

Wow, perhaps you are secretly part of the Aggressive pack. Same 20 posters posting on a forum, who’d a thowt it.

 

There's no clique here... say the posters in the clique.

 

Well there's plenty of school places for them, and they're building all those new houses.........

 

I honestly cant believe that people fall out over a post, agree, disagree, i dont know anybody on ere apart from Tosh an True red who ive met once, for fook sakes wer all on it to enjoy the football, ect, but when it comes to Politics a large percentage on ere just want confrontation. Ok i get it we all hate Racists but i dont think all the people who voted Reform in Brid are Racists, i work with 4 that i know of who voted Reform all aged 67 an above, and not Racists, an i'm sure a lot of Labour supporters know Reform voters who aint Racists,

 

They’re voting for him because they mistakenly believe their life can’t get any worse. They think they literally have nothing to lose. They don’t expect to win anything either but think they may as well try as they don’t feel like they’re winning anyway and at least it sends a message if nothing else.

The huge problem is that they actually have loads to lose. Especially the people who are worse off financially. They can lose worker’s rights (working hours/breaks, annual leave, statutory sick pay, health and safety laws etc.), renter’s rights, the NHS, their actual human rights (as they are voting to leave the ECHR). It’s easy to see what we have and forget how easily it can be taken away. Those with more money would probably not be affected too much as they’re probably got jobs with employers who are less greedy, they could afford private insurance, they own their homes etc. Some of it could even unconsciously be that they know their demographic is favoured (apart from the fact that Britain is class based so in reality most of those voting Reform aren’t favoured at all, no matter what they are told). It’s mostly men who vote reform. Women realise they have more to lose (maternity pay, access to abortions, equality and so are less like to vote for them under the ‘well, I’ve nothing to lose’ banner.

 

Read all the political threads you'll see

 

I get your point but I personally don't get why folk get so angry about something that they individually have such little control over.
Politics is definitely best chatted about face to face in my opinion.

 

It’s impossible for it to be a small amount and yet make improvements. If it’s more than the amount you’re currently paying in tax that goes specifically towards healthcare, it’s no improvement for you and it’s worse if you lose your job and can’t afford it. If it’s the same as you’re currently paying then it’s no improvement for you and it’s worse if you lose your job as you can’t afford it. If it’s less than you’re currently paying now then it won’t be enough to fund any improvements so it’s no improvement for you and it’s worse if you lose your job as you can’t afford it. That’s just looking at your own personal payments. If the insurance contribution is a small amount then it means it will be tens of billions of pounds less money collected as those on a higher tax rate will be paying significantly less in insurance than they would be through taxation. That means far less money for the NHS and a worse service for everyone. Then there’s the insurance companies who are not going to work for free. Money will have to be used to go towards paying them and funding their profits which isn’t currently an expense.

 

Foreign aid has been slashed.

How do you afford removing so much income tax from treasury coffers?

What is ‘harshly’ tacking crime?

What’s a meritocracy in this context?

 

For who grown men?

 

A lot of these immigrants will have skills that can help our country.

 

No its a fair point - and agree with the face to face argument.

I guess I suppose different folk react in different ways - maybe how politics has affected them on an individual basis as an example.

But the whole concept of Democracy is built on individuals being given the opportunity to vote so that their opinion counts.

 

Perhaps it doesn’t help when people are basically told they're thick and only vote Labour because their dad did? Despite living in an area that has been decimated by vindictive Tory politics. I don’t concur that all Reform voters are racist, but Racists do vote reform. I also believe Reform leaders do not care about wider politics, they are a far right party led by people with a very narrow ( and dangerous) agenda

 

Not me mate but you are 100 per cent one of em, an very very opinionated when it comes to Labour, love your passion,