Exactly this, all this debate about who the next head coach should be when it really doesn't matter. The fact is if the owners and Mladen don't change their approach, we are in decline regardless of who the head coach is. And Neerav's recent interview suggests that the approach won't change. For that reason I don't want CH to get the job because I think he deserves a lot better.
I feel like people are absolutely losing their minds over this because they like Hourihane the bloke & remember him fondly as a player. It’s just typical manager nonsense to come in & complain that things aren’t up to standard in terms of discipline or fitness. Very similar to Amorim at Man Utd. I can’t believe how many people seem to take offence to a player being late to one meeting. Loads of people on here grew up idolising players who were in the pub half the week. Your biggest idols were in all likelihood far less professional than Adam Phillips is. None of that needed airing publicly. When we break it down he’s made an already struggling team worse & has publicly criticised one of our most important players. Everything else is just wishful thinking. Unless we’ve got players or other coaches posting on here no one knows what he’s like as a coach.
Conor certainly seems to talk the talk but it's backing it up that is the difficult bit. We should have certainly done better in the last 4 games but I reckon it will only take a solid 30 minute spell in any of the last few games to get him the job. Mladen's deflection tactics of sacking Clarke has worked a treat.
Of those without a club, Duff would be the one I’d have the most confidence in. And I know he had a bigger input into recruitment than Collins did, for example. Because he’s **** sure of himself. Neill was far too much of a gent to get his own way at times. I think that’s critical. Whoever gets the gig needs to be given way more control in certain areas. You can’t keep delivering poor signings that coaches have no idea about and then firing them when those recruits turn out badly. If it wasn’t for Brexit and it being harder to shop overseas, I’d fully expect some high pressing European coach again. As seen with Thalhammer, getting the requisite points to get a work permit is much harder now.
As said, I disagreed with him airing his Phillips complaint publicly. And these four games in charge haven’t impressed me. But I think I gave a very detailed and fair explanation further up the thread supporting why I’d like to see him in the job long term. Who would you like the club to appoint and let me know how you’d see that working.
by now by now he will know what the team needs for next season lets be fair, we all know that the reqruitment in january and prob b4, was pathetic- -bad spreadsheet ???as usual, we needed to sell b4 buying, 'but who wanted any of these players' and who will be sold at season end-at very cheap price if we are lucky. Houriane was on a hiding to nothing taking over. Imho i have seen some improvent in last few games and but for absolutey diabolical defending by defenders and midfielders in the last 15 mins we could have taken more points.-how many points dropped in this season. in that 15 mins
We've lost 15 points due to goals after the 75th minute. We've gained 6 points due to goals after the 75th minute.
I couldn’t give you a name. Outside of Barnsley matches I watch very little lower league football. I think we need to be looking at a managerial team who have overachieved in league one at a club with a smaller budget than us, overachieved in league two or even the conference. I want to see a manager come in with his own assistant & preferably even a second coach if he wants one but I want them to be his own choices. I want to see Hourihane & Stead depart. I don’t think it’s a good place for any manager at the club to have Hourihane on his staff. That doesn’t just go for Hourihane by the way. I think anyone having a club legend as his assistant is asking for trouble. How does it work? Well that’s the sticky point. I’m not sure it works for anyone. We’ve only to look at this seasons signings to see that the manager isn’t our biggest issue. They have to come away a bit from this data led approach & get some legs into the side to complement the quality we have but the question is will they?
Even though they probably deserved it. Anyway, you should be delighted now that he's gone. Time will tell though, whether it was the right thing to do.
Appreciate the considered response. There’s a lot there which I agree with to be honest. Particularly on the next man having more autonomy. I saw nothing of Saturday’s game, and so I haven’t commented on it. But of course, most of my remarks in this thread came prior to a 6-2 beat down. So it’s looking a more and more difficult sell, the Conor shout.
If I recall correctly, Barry Scott was fascinated by a penny being cleaned in one of the ads. “You love that penny, don’t you Barry?” He’d be ideal, loving pennies. We ain’t got a quid to offer that’s for sure; a penny seems more attainable.
Perhaps if Valerian leaves Blackburn, the club can appoint him as DoF to implement the pressure with CH as coach. Then they can see whether the press is the right approach for the club. As Jay said, this press idea the owners seems to think the fans want, seems to have come from Valerian's season.
It’s clear as day that it’s true though, how many goals have we conceded in the last 20 minutes? Regardless of what you think about Conor or any other head coach, we just cannot see a game out. Edit: I see this has already been discussed above.
I completely get that and it's true we can't but I think it's for one key reason. Other teams have a squad where they can bring on subs to see a game out or to get back into a game. If we are losing which sub striker would come on and make a difference? Which midfielder on the bench would you trust to bring on to get the team going forward? Likewise if we are hanging on which midfielder would you trust to come on and stop the opposition running at us? Which striker would you expect to hold the ball up? Or which defender would you look at and think 'aye, he'll sure up that defence for the last 20 minutes'. I honestly don't think our lack of being able to see a game out is down to fitness, we don't look any worse than other teams fitness wise (imo), it's just simply poor recruitment that means we have loads of poor players but no actual strength in depth. But even if I did think it was down to poor attitudes and poor fitness as someone who's been paid quite well to coach Barnsley FC all season I think he has to shoulder a lot of the blame. Let's be reyt, he even admitted that he didn't have the motivation and necessary dedication to stay fit earlier in the season so it's a bit hypocritical to slag off the previous head coach for players including himself not being dedicated enough
We grew up idolising players that were on peanuts compared to today's lot. They were much more in touch with the fans. And one player manager instilled more discipline than most others. Alan Clarke. If at work and you were aware of the rules. Would you stand for it. if you were punished and others were overlooked. I had several confrontations with management over some in the workforce in similar circumstances.
I agree with all of that. My grievances are that it’s been made public & I also think many people are agreeing with Hourihane simply because he’s Hourihane. I don’t believe many fans would take everything the manager says at face value & support him airing it publicly if the manager was Collins or Clarke.
It's always the same fans have more time/sentiment for ex players or managers who have done well here previously. Look at wilsons 2nd spell it was really bad and was just getting worse but many wanted us to stick with him and we're always defending it. 2nd point I think footballs changed alot since the days of George best. Wouldn't get away with none of that now.
