Sheffield Wednesday named Europe's worst financial performers in 2021

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  1. Archey

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    At least they've won something:)
     
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    Good to see they're learning lessons at least by paying what I assume will be substantial wages to the two former Rotherham lads
     
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    When you see figures like £124 million quid as debt then think back to the amount that we were forced into admin with. At least we had some reasonable explanation with ITV digital going tits up.

    Are they at the point where it is impossible to turn round but the owner won't admit it?
     
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    Well knock me down with a feather
     
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    Anyone know where the full list is? Can't seem to find it!
     
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    Going some to be worse than Derby County
     
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    Surely Man City incur bigger losses? Given the huge amount of recapitalisation they keep doing to write off hundreds of millions of losses.
     
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    Aren't Barcelona a billion in debt?
     
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    Don't think it's about overall debt

    Sheffield Wednesday have been labelled as the worst financial performers in all of Europe last year, according to Off The Pitch. Off The Pitch apply a weighted model of EBITDA margin (earning before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization), return on assets and equity ratio to 185 European clubs to rank each one based on their financial stablility and viability.

    Having compiled a list of most European sides, Wednesday finished bottom of that list. Clubs that include transfer revenue in their total turnover have been excluded to create fairness. After all clubs were ranked, the Owls were placed bottom after a series of financial struggles in recent years.
     
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    Hibs and St Mirren in the top 10?
    IMG_3008.jpg
     
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    We paid 200 million for Conor. :D
     
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    And there's me thinking the purpose of a football club is to play football but it turns out it's all about making money....
     
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    Ahhhhh,I see now, it's the debt that's MASSIVE.
     
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    To put BFC in context, the average turnover in the Championship, excluding parachute payments is around £20m. In a normal season BFC are around £14m give or take. Typically not the smallest revenue but in the lower reaches around 20th of 24. The big skew is between clubs with parachute payments which virtually doubles the average revenue.

    League one average revenue is around £6m we should be marginally above that at around £8m. Even the bigger clubs in league one like Sunderland and Wednesday only generate around £15m (normalised to take account of the Covid impact on ticket sales).

    In league one our revenue would be expected to be above average but certainly not MASSIVE.
     

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