The Plan

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Is The Plan working?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Need More Time to Judge

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  1. 55&counting

    55&counting Well-Known Member

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    Is the Club's plan - sustainability off the field and progression on it - working?

    Genuinely interested in whether opinion on here has changed, especially amongst those who have previously been ultra critical of how we're trying to achieve what we want to achieve.

    Not done one before but going to try and do a poll....hope it works.
     
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    Can we have a "need more time to judge" option.

    There are still things in the background that have me a bit worried about the sustainability part but I was always behind the idea of resourcing young, hungry players and I've liked the fact we've decided on a system and are finding managers to suit it. Be interesting to see what happens over the summer but for now I'm happy.
     
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    55&counting Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad you're happy Helen!
     
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    I usually am.
     
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    I do not think that this is a simple yes/no question. I do not like 3-4-3 as I have said many times, but as far as I can see, there is no requirement for that system to be linked to the long/aimless long ball and the dull games that the tactic produces. VI insists that the first task is to get to 50 points. I wonder if he will allow the team to play more constructively for the whole 90 minutes after we get to that points total. I look forward to watching the team play in a different way after they get 50 points.
     
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    Don't know if the plan is working but Valerien is working very well. Have I told you lately that I love Val? I do, I love Valerien :)
     
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    so hard in life to stick to a spending plan, us fans are like the voice in peoples head, go on buy it, pay for it next year, you will be ok, to the club,spend spend ,it only ends in tears ,well done for running our club sustainably
     
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    The plan is to consolidate as a consistent Championship team and push on from there.

    I’d say that it’s working.
     
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    Invite him round to yours after lockdown, he wants to sample British food and culture .
    Yorkshire Puds et al :)
    WHY DON’T YER COME ON OVER VALERI en
     
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    Why would they play differently?
     
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    I’ve said similar to this previously. It’s going to be interesting and am really looking forward to see how we play once this 50ish points perceived safety target is reached. It’s all looking very positive indeed at this moment in time.
    Edit: That’s not to say we will or even need to play differently, but when the ‘fear factor’ of relegation is removed I believe the players will feel more comfortable and most of the errors will disappear.
     
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    Pretty much sums up what I think as well. We’ve had two or three decent transfer windows, but the last two were at a time when money was tight throughout the sport. The club’s resolve to keep players or at least hold out for good money will be tested when fans are back in grounds
     
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    I've never known anyone get tired of winning so quickly.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they'll continue to play the same way.
     
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    Suspect this is the usual story of 2+2=?

    He was supposed today his first objective was to get safety and go from there.
    Some have assumed this means he will change the style.
     
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    these people think its like fifa on playstation, get down to pitch level and in all the mud blood and thunder ,we doing ok ,we found a way to compete
     
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    I’m simply saying it’s going to be interesting to see how we play once the perceived safety target is reached. I do think the players will individually and probably collectively, play with more expression, perhaps not afraid to try things and also, they’ll be less errors.
     
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    2 things that will bring success to the plan.... better raw materials and layering.

    When PC started out we were getting non league players and trying to turn them into championship players, as time progressed though we now seem to be shopping in academies of clubs such as leeds, norwich and players from league 1 who are almost, if not ready to go from the off.

    Allied to that we must replace before we sell, get the next player up to speed so we dont have the dip we saw in jan 2017. Do we already have mowatts replacement in styles, do we have woodrows replacement in morris?

    these things arent an exact science though so it can never be truly measured b the board wanted to stabilise in the championship and then push on, its arguably the time now to push on.
     
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    I'm with Helen on this one. The fact that there were not wholesale departures in the Summer was welcome, and certainly different to the previous Summer. The consequence of that has been the on-the-field progress and stability (at least in the short-term - hopefully for much longer) of the club which was stated as the aim when the current owners took over. The big question marks are: 1) Does the greater stability in the playing squad mean the approach has been modified, or is it just a function of a languid pandemic-era transfer market? 2) When will the dispute regarding ownership of the club and it's grounds be settled, and what will the 'new' owners' attitude be if that is not resolved to their satisfaction? In regard to 1) I'm actually more reassured that should there be sales in the future, good replacements who are more 'Championship-ready' appear likely to be identified. As for 2), there is an argument to say why should we worry about that - just follow the team!

    But to emphasize the positives, we have now had three coaches since Jose Morais who have all been excellent in their own different ways, and the results this season - at this level - suggest that we are currently enjoying the best of them. The players naturally vary in their ability, but their commitment and work rate cannot be faulted - last season or this.
     
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    I just don't see why we'd play winning football, 12 wins from Val's 22 games in the league, (we won 12 all last season) which sees us higher than we've been for much of the last 20 or so years, and then play differently once we reach 50 points.

    That we're doing as well as we are this season owes a lot to Val and the way he has the team playing. To change that would be bizarre.

    But it's football and surprises are never too far away.
     

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